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> From an economist, this is a surprisingly racial thesis In the United States, race is inextricably bound up in economic outcomes. To pretend that race is sep

> From an economist, this is a surprisingly racial thesis In the United States, race is inextricably bound up in economic outcomes. To pretend that race is separable from a person's experience here is intellectually negligent, and any theories that do not include race as a major factor should be looked at with more scrutiny, not less. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-c...

djtriptych 9y ago
I upvoted this comment, which is exactly correct. HN will, as a group, attempt to remove race from any analysis, when in fact racial bias is present basically everywhere we have enough data to look.
- wjnc 9y ago
  Racial bias can be present everywhere without race needing to be a part of every theory or else face the accusation of intellectual negligence. It's not a persons race that's discriminating... Persons discriminate. Adding a factor for race in an economists model explains nothing. Proper theory needs to explain the motivations behind discrimination. That actual means (IMHO) theories without 'race' (but with broad socio-economic explanations) to explain racial discrimination and segregated outcomes.
crdoconnor 9y ago
>In the United States, race is inextricably bound up in economic outcomes. To pretend that race is separable from a person's experience here is intellectually negligent Race is inextricably bound up in economic outcomes, but the author appears to be more than just acknowledging it - Peter Temin, the cisgendered white male boomer, is using it as a scapegoat for other, larger structural causes of poverty - namely the power and wealth of the 1%. The "top 20%" (e.g. programmers like us) also appears to be another scapegoat stand in. Asserting that programmers were the ones actively keeping the minimum wage down "just because we're white", using a thin veneer of academic legitimacy, is way worse than just intellectual negligence: it's class war.

djtriptych 9y ago

I upvoted this comment, which is exactly correct. HN will, as a group, attempt to remove race from any analysis, when in fact racial bias is present basically everywhere we have enough data to look.

wjnc 9y ago
Racial bias can be present everywhere without race needing to be a part of every theory or else face the accusation of intellectual negligence. It's not a persons race that's discriminating... Persons discriminate. Adding a factor for race in an economists model explains nothing. Proper theory needs to explain the motivations behind discrimination. That actual means (IMHO) theories without 'race' (but with broad socio-economic explanations) to explain racial discrimination and segregated outcomes.

crdoconnor 9y ago

>In the United States, race is inextricably bound up in economic outcomes. To pretend that race is separable from a person's experience here is intellectually negligent Race is inextricably bound up in economic outcomes, but the author appears to be more than just acknowledging it - Peter Temin, the cisgendered white male boomer, is using it as a scapegoat for other, larger structural causes of poverty - namely the power and wealth of the 1%. The "top 20%" (e.g. programmers like us) also appears to be another scapegoat stand in. Asserting that programmers were the ones actively keeping the minimum wage down "just because we're white", using a thin veneer of academic legitimacy, is way worse than just intellectual negligence: it's class war.