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> We already know that the rate in which women will file for divorce is directly related to the income of the husband Do we know that? I see a study suggesting

> We already know that the rate in which women will file for divorce is directly related to the income of the husband Do we know that? I see a study suggesting that women who earn more relative to their male partners will be more likely to divorce (so called "independence effect"). I see a study that suggests that lower income families are more likely to divorce. These two bullet points alone make me think there is not a clear cut story about how the income of one partner effects marriage and divorce rates.

vowelless 9y ago
There is a study that shows rates for different industries too. I think entertainment industry has the highest divorce rates where as engineering is among the lowest? If someone kind find a link I'll be grateful
- cosmotron 9y ago
  I believe this is the article: http://flowingdata.com/2017/07/25/divorce-and-occupation http://flowingdata.com/2017/07/25/divorce-and-occupation
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belorn 9y ago
> A study at Ohio State University found 75 percent of women don’t want to marry an unemployed man. It also found that a man’s unemployment has a negative effect on whether a couple goes through divorce. >Results showed a woman’s employment status has no impact on whether she chooses to divorce, but an unemployed man faces a greater increase his wife will file. (https://www.themarkslawfirm.com/marital-problems-linked-to-unemployment/ https://www.themarkslawfirm.com/marital-problems-linked-to-u...) > A Harvard University study declared “job loss” the biggest factor in divorce. > she learned that divorce is more likely when husbands are not employed full-time. In fact, those without full-time jobs increase their odds of divorce by roughly 30%. (https://thebigsmoke.com/2016/12/29/harvard-study-finds-job-loss-number-one-reason-divorce/ https://thebigsmoke.com/2016/12/29/harvard-study-finds-job-l...) > Others looked at the how income affects the marriage and divorce decisions of young Americans; they found that high earnings capacity increases the probability of marriage and decreases the probability of divorce for young men. (https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divor...) It feels pretty well established.
- kennywinker 9y ago
  Three of those are about employed vs unemployed, not how much you earn. Compairing nil to n rather than n1 to n2. The last one, that actually might have said something about earnings vs divorce is a study done from 1957–1964. A fairly different time for women in the workplace, and male-female relationships in general.
  - belorn 9y ago
    The quote above describe part time vs full, which incidentally is also what the pay gap compare in the article. If we exclude unemployment, part time and overtime then we don't get a pay gap between spouses and the 10-year baby window is irrelevant for discussion. It all falls on comparing the total income of one individual to that of an other, from the range of nil to n, and attribute the pattern to a social concept. One do not have to believe that the breadwinner model exist as a gender role, or that the pay gap exist, but then discussing them together becomes moot. There is no study to show that spouses which have the same education, same experience, same job, put in the same number of hours with the same responsibilities have different pay. No such apple to apple comparison exist.
  - solidsnack9000 9y ago
    It is noteworthy, though, that a woman's employment status does not affect her likelihood of being divorced at all.

vowelless 9y ago

There is a study that shows rates for different industries too. I think entertainment industry has the highest divorce rates where as engineering is among the lowest? If someone kind find a link I'll be grateful

cosmotron 9y ago
I believe this is the article: http://flowingdata.com/2017/07/25/divorce-and-occupation http://flowingdata.com/2017/07/25/divorce-and-occupation

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belorn 9y ago

> A study at Ohio State University found 75 percent of women don’t want to marry an unemployed man. It also found that a man’s unemployment has a negative effect on whether a couple goes through divorce. >Results showed a woman’s employment status has no impact on whether she chooses to divorce, but an unemployed man faces a greater increase his wife will file. (https://www.themarkslawfirm.com/marital-problems-linked-to-unemployment/ https://www.themarkslawfirm.com/marital-problems-linked-to-u...) > A Harvard University study declared “job loss” the biggest factor in divorce. > she learned that divorce is more likely when husbands are not employed full-time. In fact, those without full-time jobs increase their odds of divorce by roughly 30%. (https://thebigsmoke.com/2016/12/29/harvard-study-finds-job-loss-number-one-reason-divorce/ https://thebigsmoke.com/2016/12/29/harvard-study-finds-job-l...) > Others looked at the how income affects the marriage and divorce decisions of young Americans; they found that high earnings capacity increases the probability of marriage and decreases the probability of divorce for young men. (https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divorce-patterns-by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/article/marriage-and-divor...) It feels pretty well established.

kennywinker 9y ago
Three of those are about employed vs unemployed, not how much you earn. Compairing nil to n rather than n1 to n2. The last one, that actually might have said something about earnings vs divorce is a study done from 1957–1964. A fairly different time for women in the workplace, and male-female relationships in general.
- belorn 9y ago
  The quote above describe part time vs full, which incidentally is also what the pay gap compare in the article. If we exclude unemployment, part time and overtime then we don't get a pay gap between spouses and the 10-year baby window is irrelevant for discussion. It all falls on comparing the total income of one individual to that of an other, from the range of nil to n, and attribute the pattern to a social concept. One do not have to believe that the breadwinner model exist as a gender role, or that the pay gap exist, but then discussing them together becomes moot. There is no study to show that spouses which have the same education, same experience, same job, put in the same number of hours with the same responsibilities have different pay. No such apple to apple comparison exist.
- solidsnack9000 9y ago
  It is noteworthy, though, that a woman's employment status does not affect her likelihood of being divorced at all.