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How does this compare to Franz? https://github.com/meetfranz/franz https://github.com/meetfranz/franz

hs86 8y ago
Franz launches a completely new instance for every workspace/network that you add and these are based on their regular webviews. Unlike Slack, it will not unload less frequently used workspaces from your RAM and with 8 Slack workspaces, Telegram, Whatsapp and IRCCloud it managed to permanently allocate more than 3 GiB RAM. That may be fine on my beefy desktop PC but not on my MacBook Air with only 8 GiB RAM. In my case, just leaving the official apps of these chat networks in the background seems to be less resource intensive than running Franz. I really hope that https://eul.im/ https://eul.im/ will up to my expectations.
- gmemstr 8y ago
  I'm still really leery of eul.im, I can't seem to find anybody reviewing/actually using it and it throws up a couple detections on VirusTotal. Would be interested to hear of your experience.
  - amedvednikov 8y ago
    Hi, developer here. I just tested it on VirusTotal and didn't get any detections. Could you please post a screenshot with what you get here or contact me via support@eul.im? Thanks
    - gmemstr 8y ago
      VirusTotal link: https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/e88753917d7283715f0a4c633ea9f6740b38dd0fed3419a3ee03bcc84357185b/detection https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/e88753917d7283715f0a4c633e... Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/X60nnAT.png https://i.imgur.com/X60nnAT.png I'm excited to try it but because I'd be using it for sensitve/confidential work I don't want to risk it unfortunately.
    - tuananh 8y ago
      The latest version fails to start for me (just crash upon startup)
- magano227 8y ago
  Have you tried eul? How does it behaves compared to the official clients or other non-native alternatives?
  - hs86 8y ago
    It was still very unstable for me and somehow their change-log always indicates that the upcoming version n+1 will be SO MUCH BETTER than the current version n. Therefore I am always skipping the current version and wait for the next one.
    - amedvednikov 8y ago
      Yeah I've been really slow and unreliable with the releases so far with weekly delays. Developing a truly native client for all 3 platforms is pretty hard. The final beta with Linux support is going to be released in a couple of hours, and the development process should be quicker now that I'm finally done with UI and graphics.
      - fak3r 8y ago
        Looks cool, I especially like the proposed Signal support... how can I download the Linux Beta? Not finding a link, and since it's not open source I assume the code isn't on github. Good luck, looks interesting
maturz 8y ago
Similar alternative https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox
- jdhawk 8y ago
  Really want spell check in rambox.
- mdeeks 8y ago
  I don't know enough about electron, but this seems pretty bad: https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/8094752efb55a003b516cbc2662cd7fa668bf7c4/electron/main.js#L159 https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/8094752efb55a003b... https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/b217c9d8f1c0030a71a757a923bb4da5e722ce80/app/ux/WebView.js#L177 https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/b217c9d8f1c0030a7... https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutorial/security.md#5-do-not-disable-websecurity https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutori... https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutorial/security.md#8-do-not-set-allowrunninginsecurecontent-to-true https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutori...
  - lioeters 8y ago
    Good catch!

hs86 8y ago

Franz launches a completely new instance for every workspace/network that you add and these are based on their regular webviews. Unlike Slack, it will not unload less frequently used workspaces from your RAM and with 8 Slack workspaces, Telegram, Whatsapp and IRCCloud it managed to permanently allocate more than 3 GiB RAM. That may be fine on my beefy desktop PC but not on my MacBook Air with only 8 GiB RAM. In my case, just leaving the official apps of these chat networks in the background seems to be less resource intensive than running Franz. I really hope that https://eul.im/ https://eul.im/ will up to my expectations.

gmemstr 8y ago
I'm still really leery of eul.im, I can't seem to find anybody reviewing/actually using it and it throws up a couple detections on VirusTotal. Would be interested to hear of your experience.
- amedvednikov 8y ago
  Hi, developer here. I just tested it on VirusTotal and didn't get any detections. Could you please post a screenshot with what you get here or contact me via support@eul.im? Thanks
  - gmemstr 8y ago
    VirusTotal link: https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/e88753917d7283715f0a4c633ea9f6740b38dd0fed3419a3ee03bcc84357185b/detection https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/e88753917d7283715f0a4c633e... Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/X60nnAT.png https://i.imgur.com/X60nnAT.png I'm excited to try it but because I'd be using it for sensitve/confidential work I don't want to risk it unfortunately.
  - tuananh 8y ago
    The latest version fails to start for me (just crash upon startup)
magano227 8y ago
Have you tried eul? How does it behaves compared to the official clients or other non-native alternatives?
- hs86 8y ago
  It was still very unstable for me and somehow their change-log always indicates that the upcoming version n+1 will be SO MUCH BETTER than the current version n. Therefore I am always skipping the current version and wait for the next one.
  - amedvednikov 8y ago
    Yeah I've been really slow and unreliable with the releases so far with weekly delays. Developing a truly native client for all 3 platforms is pretty hard. The final beta with Linux support is going to be released in a couple of hours, and the development process should be quicker now that I'm finally done with UI and graphics.
    - fak3r 8y ago
      Looks cool, I especially like the proposed Signal support... how can I download the Linux Beta? Not finding a link, and since it's not open source I assume the code isn't on github. Good luck, looks interesting

maturz 8y ago

Similar alternative https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox

jdhawk 8y ago
Really want spell check in rambox.
mdeeks 8y ago
I don't know enough about electron, but this seems pretty bad: https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/8094752efb55a003b516cbc2662cd7fa668bf7c4/electron/main.js#L159 https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/8094752efb55a003b... https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/b217c9d8f1c0030a71a757a923bb4da5e722ce80/app/ux/WebView.js#L177 https://github.com/saenzramiro/rambox/blob/b217c9d8f1c0030a7... https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutorial/security.md#5-do-not-disable-websecurity https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutori... https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutorial/security.md#8-do-not-set-allowrunninginsecurecontent-to-true https://github.com/electron/electron/blob/master/docs/tutori...
- lioeters 8y ago
  Good catch!