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Steve Jobs MIT Class (1992) [video]

52 points by janvdberg 9y ago

janvdberg 9y ago
This lecture got uploaded last week, and I had not seen it before. I think it gives a pretty nice insight into the mind of Jobs (who was doing NeXT at the time), about how he thinks about deep work/failure/learning/"scar tissue" and it goes to show that what he later set out to do with Apple was the result of a deliberate effort/process of approaching things.
- jason_slack 9y ago
  Agreed. I have a lot of old Apple footage when I used to run an Apple video site back in the day. I have never seen this either. Great to watch.
combatentropy 9y ago
Whatever your judgment of Jobs, I think he was a rare dude: minimalist, hippie, articulate, charismatic, business-savvy, technical, and artistic. Many people have some of these traits, but I can't think of anyone else with all of them.
- Brockenstein 9y ago
  Does having all of them express some sort of ideal? What is the significance of having all of them?
  - tommymachine 9y ago
    I think by the context... uniqueness?
atonse 9y ago
Two things: 1) Jobs' ability to talk about strategic trends in the industry in such a clear way is truly rare. 2) Amusing how everyone thought OOP would enable a whole paradigm shift. Has that actually panned out?
- jjtheblunt 9y ago
  Do you have a little NeXT device in your pocket called an iPhone?
  - bdcravens 9y ago
    I think the point is that today OOP is just an architectural choice. The success of the iPhone is no more evidence of OOP being a paradigm shift than other platforms that also implement it (Windows, Android, Rails, etc)
    - scrumper 9y ago
      Yes, for one thing it was supposed to enable all sorts of clever composable behaviors; a big change in how computers presented themselves to end users. Apple had OpenDoc[1], Microsoft had OLE. You'd be able to just work on some piece of content, with the UI reflecting the capabilities of whatever "objects" you had installed. OLE actually worked (for certain values of 'worked'), not sure OpenDoc ever got off the ground. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc
      - GeekyBear 9y ago
        Cyberdog, a suite of internet utilities, is an example of an OpenDoc based product that did make it into the hands of end users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdog
        scrumper 9y ago
        Ah, I do remember this. It was pretty short lived. Good find.
  - atonse 9y ago
    I'm only referring to Object-Oriented programming. Not sure what the iPhone has to do with that. Unless you are talking about UIKit, the application framework.
beautifulfreak 9y ago
The full video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI The 2 minute excerpts are nice, but the 73 minute talk is better.
starchild_3001 9y ago
Pretty awesome talk. Many of his business insights are applicable to 2018.
cuchoi 9y ago
Steve Job's opinion on consulting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI&feature=youtu.be&t=921 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI&feature=youtu.be...

52 points by janvdberg 9y ago

This lecture got uploaded last week, and I had not seen it before. I think it gives a pretty nice insight into the mind of Jobs (who was doing NeXT at the time), about how he thinks about deep work/failure/learning/"scar tissue" and it goes to show that what he later set out to do with Apple was the result of a deliberate effort/process of approaching things.

jason_slack 9y ago
Agreed. I have a lot of old Apple footage when I used to run an Apple video site back in the day. I have never seen this either. Great to watch.

combatentropy 9y ago

Whatever your judgment of Jobs, I think he was a rare dude: minimalist, hippie, articulate, charismatic, business-savvy, technical, and artistic. Many people have some of these traits, but I can't think of anyone else with all of them.

Brockenstein 9y ago
Does having all of them express some sort of ideal? What is the significance of having all of them?
- tommymachine 9y ago
  I think by the context... uniqueness?

atonse 9y ago

Two things: 1) Jobs' ability to talk about strategic trends in the industry in such a clear way is truly rare. 2) Amusing how everyone thought OOP would enable a whole paradigm shift. Has that actually panned out?

jjtheblunt 9y ago
Do you have a little NeXT device in your pocket called an iPhone?
- bdcravens 9y ago
  I think the point is that today OOP is just an architectural choice. The success of the iPhone is no more evidence of OOP being a paradigm shift than other platforms that also implement it (Windows, Android, Rails, etc)
  - scrumper 9y ago
    Yes, for one thing it was supposed to enable all sorts of clever composable behaviors; a big change in how computers presented themselves to end users. Apple had OpenDoc[1], Microsoft had OLE. You'd be able to just work on some piece of content, with the UI reflecting the capabilities of whatever "objects" you had installed. OLE actually worked (for certain values of 'worked'), not sure OpenDoc ever got off the ground. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc
    - GeekyBear 9y ago
      Cyberdog, a suite of internet utilities, is an example of an OpenDoc based product that did make it into the hands of end users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdog
      - scrumper 9y ago
        Ah, I do remember this. It was pretty short lived. Good find.
- atonse 9y ago
  I'm only referring to Object-Oriented programming. Not sure what the iPhone has to do with that. Unless you are talking about UIKit, the application framework.

beautifulfreak 9y ago

The full video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI The 2 minute excerpts are nice, but the 73 minute talk is better.

starchild_3001 9y ago

Pretty awesome talk. Many of his business insights are applicable to 2018.

cuchoi 9y ago

Steve Job's opinion on consulting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI&feature=youtu.be&t=921 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI&feature=youtu.be...