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Ehhhh, I'd leave it as is. Unless you have business licenses in EU countries, EU laws have no legal authority over you. If you do have such licenses, then you'r

Ehhhh, I'd leave it as is. Unless you have business licenses in EU countries, EU laws have no legal authority over you. If you do have such licenses, then you're probably big enough to foot the bill and possibly also can't afford to not foot the bill (due to suspended licenses). This privacy thing is, like, their option, man. Even if you and I agree with the EU.

downandout 9y ago
I’ve been looking into this, as I run several sites myself, and apparently this isn’t true. They can go after you even if you have no EU presence, and US courts will domesticate any EU judgment against you for fines levied under it.
- mulmen 9y ago
  Do you have a source on this? Seems like a major concern if true.
  - downandout 9y ago
    Several, but this one explains the issue most succinctly: https://aristilabs.com/how-the-gdpr-apply-to-your-us-based-company-how-the-eu-can-fine-us-companies/ https://aristilabs.com/how-the-gdpr-apply-to-your-us-based-c... "Under Article 3 of the GDPR, your company is subject to the new law if it processes personal data of an individual residing in the EU when the data is accessed....the GDPR can apply even if no financial transaction occurs. For example, if your organization is a US company with an Internet presence, selling or marketing products over the Web, or even merely offering a marketing survey globally, you may be subject to the GDPR." With regard to enforcement.... "...EU regulators rely on international law to issue fines. Written into GDPR itself is a clause, stating that any action against a company from outside the EU must be issued in accordance with international law." Most US states have adopted the Uniform Foreign Money Judgments Recognition Act (UFMJRA), which allows for judgments issued by foreign courts to be domesticated. Once that is done, the judgment carries the same force and effect as if it were originally issued by a US court.
  - Bizarro 9y ago
    It's not true, but something that is bantered about on HN by people that wish it was true. Think about it. If it was true, then the entire global legal system would get very chaotic. Frankly, the political agenda by people telling these lies is quite tiresome. Just ignore them.
    - downandout 9y ago
      It's interesting that I posted a source for this 5 minutes before you posted this comment.
  - Bizarro 9y ago
    And since I can't reply to the parent directly, I'll just say that there is no international law that covers this. None, zilch, zero....so anybody says that you're somehow beholden to GDPR when you have 0 presence in the EU is either lying or ignorant of the reality.

downandout 9y ago

I’ve been looking into this, as I run several sites myself, and apparently this isn’t true. They can go after you even if you have no EU presence, and US courts will domesticate any EU judgment against you for fines levied under it.

mulmen 9y ago
Do you have a source on this? Seems like a major concern if true.
- downandout 9y ago
  Several, but this one explains the issue most succinctly: https://aristilabs.com/how-the-gdpr-apply-to-your-us-based-company-how-the-eu-can-fine-us-companies/ https://aristilabs.com/how-the-gdpr-apply-to-your-us-based-c... "Under Article 3 of the GDPR, your company is subject to the new law if it processes personal data of an individual residing in the EU when the data is accessed....the GDPR can apply even if no financial transaction occurs. For example, if your organization is a US company with an Internet presence, selling or marketing products over the Web, or even merely offering a marketing survey globally, you may be subject to the GDPR." With regard to enforcement.... "...EU regulators rely on international law to issue fines. Written into GDPR itself is a clause, stating that any action against a company from outside the EU must be issued in accordance with international law." Most US states have adopted the Uniform Foreign Money Judgments Recognition Act (UFMJRA), which allows for judgments issued by foreign courts to be domesticated. Once that is done, the judgment carries the same force and effect as if it were originally issued by a US court.
- Bizarro 9y ago
  It's not true, but something that is bantered about on HN by people that wish it was true. Think about it. If it was true, then the entire global legal system would get very chaotic. Frankly, the political agenda by people telling these lies is quite tiresome. Just ignore them.
  - downandout 9y ago
    It's interesting that I posted a source for this 5 minutes before you posted this comment.
- Bizarro 9y ago
  And since I can't reply to the parent directly, I'll just say that there is no international law that covers this. None, zilch, zero....so anybody says that you're somehow beholden to GDPR when you have 0 presence in the EU is either lying or ignorant of the reality.