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Parents without enough credit don't get to send their kids to private school in America either. I'm not sure how you could overlook the fact that our whole civi

Parents without enough credit don't get to send their kids to private school in America either. I'm not sure how you could overlook the fact that our whole civilization is founded upon a social credit system far more pervasive and malicious than this thing the Chinese are introducing. We should really sort out the problems in our own backyard before criticizing the chinks for having a system that picks winners and losers based on how they behave.

whatshisface 9y ago
In the US, we're moving away from the time when black people could not board flights. In China, they are moving towards a similar system but for perhaps different people groups. Also, please be aware that the social credit system that we have in the west has not blackballed you for the comment you just made speaking against it. There is no way for me to report you for your distaste for the biases in the US system, even though you are clearly "inciting unrest." (In repressive countries your comment would be off-limts.)
- Fricken 9y ago
  There are tens of millions of Americans who don't have enough credit banked to board a flight. Or to get healthcare. Or to live in humane conditions. Or to eat 3 swuare meals a day. And there all kinds of things I can't say at work or else I'll be denied credit needed for pretty much everything.
  - gruez 9y ago
    >There are tens of millions of Americans who don't have enough credit banked to board a flight what is this "credit" required to board a flight that you speak of? you can pay for tickets with debit or cash at the counter, so it's not like you need a credit card to fly. if you mean payment for the ticket, i think that's a very reasonable requirement in exchange for the service provided. i did a quick search for a roundtrip flight from new york to chicago on google flights, and it works out to $168 on amirican airlines and $50 on spirit airlines. there might be "tens of millions of Americans" who don't have that much money saved up, if you can't save $50 for a plane ticket, you probably have bigger things to worry about than not being able to get from new york to chicago.
    - Fricken 9y ago
      Agreed, if you don't have 50 credits for a plane ticket you've got bigger things to worry about. Money is credit. It controls our behavior and everything we do. It decides winners and losers. If you don't act a certain way, and do certain things, then you don't get money and you don't get to fly on a plane, amongst many other things. The capitalist system is a type of social credit system. It's a harsh, unforgiving, cruel and unjust system, and we're as immersed in it as fish in water, so we take it for granted. We take it for granted, that is, until we're introduced to a slight variant and you think about it for a few minutes, and 'Oh my gosh, keeping score on people? That's terrible!' But if you think about it, a system that rewards people based on whether or not they're an asshole does make more sense than one that rewards people only on their ability to accumulate points- it seems to me that such a system would lead to pathological outcomes. Which, of course, it does.

whatshisface 9y ago

In the US, we're moving away from the time when black people could not board flights. In China, they are moving towards a similar system but for perhaps different people groups. Also, please be aware that the social credit system that we have in the west has not blackballed you for the comment you just made speaking against it. There is no way for me to report you for your distaste for the biases in the US system, even though you are clearly "inciting unrest." (In repressive countries your comment would be off-limts.)

Fricken 9y ago
There are tens of millions of Americans who don't have enough credit banked to board a flight. Or to get healthcare. Or to live in humane conditions. Or to eat 3 swuare meals a day. And there all kinds of things I can't say at work or else I'll be denied credit needed for pretty much everything.
- gruez 9y ago
  >There are tens of millions of Americans who don't have enough credit banked to board a flight what is this "credit" required to board a flight that you speak of? you can pay for tickets with debit or cash at the counter, so it's not like you need a credit card to fly. if you mean payment for the ticket, i think that's a very reasonable requirement in exchange for the service provided. i did a quick search for a roundtrip flight from new york to chicago on google flights, and it works out to $168 on amirican airlines and $50 on spirit airlines. there might be "tens of millions of Americans" who don't have that much money saved up, if you can't save $50 for a plane ticket, you probably have bigger things to worry about than not being able to get from new york to chicago.
  - Fricken 9y ago
    Agreed, if you don't have 50 credits for a plane ticket you've got bigger things to worry about. Money is credit. It controls our behavior and everything we do. It decides winners and losers. If you don't act a certain way, and do certain things, then you don't get money and you don't get to fly on a plane, amongst many other things. The capitalist system is a type of social credit system. It's a harsh, unforgiving, cruel and unjust system, and we're as immersed in it as fish in water, so we take it for granted. We take it for granted, that is, until we're introduced to a slight variant and you think about it for a few minutes, and 'Oh my gosh, keeping score on people? That's terrible!' But if you think about it, a system that rewards people based on whether or not they're an asshole does make more sense than one that rewards people only on their ability to accumulate points- it seems to me that such a system would lead to pathological outcomes. Which, of course, it does.