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Provide an index sheet attached to a stack of papers acknowledging documents included (title, version, date on document, page count). Check by each line, one si

Provide an index sheet attached to a stack of papers acknowledging documents included (title, version, date on document, page count). Check by each line, one signature overall.

matte_black 9y ago
Nope, too easy to argue you signed a bunch of things you did not see. I want each page initialed and important disclaimers signed at the location they appear. Will make it much easier for me in court. Much harder for you.
- techsupporter 9y ago
  I have a genuine question, and because text doesn’t convey emotion I want to be very clear that my curiosity is genuine: what is it that you’re doing that is, by appearance to me, a common transaction (perhaps multiple times per day?) wherein you want to be absolutely sure that the customer assented to lengthy terms and conditions and you’re often going into court (at least so often that you want it to be “easier for” you)? And, as a follow-up, how does this relate to a signature being used as confirmation of payment? (Or did you mean in relation to the signatures for housing transfers?)
- jjeaff 9y ago
  When we raised money from several VCs (using some of the top legal firms in silicon valley and NYC) all we had to sign was the very last page which had only the signature lines on it. It could have been attached to anything. And in fact, sometimes, they emailed us the signature page separately for us to sign, scan and send back. So I don't really think there is really much legal benefit to having stuff on every page to sign.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean there isn't a legal benefit. A paper contract must be done in two copies. Every page numbered and signed by both parties. That's the only way to cover your ass against the other party replacing pages and terms.
    - jjeaff 9y ago
      No one does that for large contracts. We would have had to sign over 1,200 pages.
  - matte_black 9y ago
    I recommend reading what you signed, you may be getting taken to the cleaners.

Provide an index sheet attached to a stack of papers acknowledging documents included (title, version, date on document, page count). Check by each line, one signature overall.

matte_black 9y ago

Nope, too easy to argue you signed a bunch of things you did not see. I want each page initialed and important disclaimers signed at the location they appear. Will make it much easier for me in court. Much harder for you.

techsupporter 9y ago
I have a genuine question, and because text doesn’t convey emotion I want to be very clear that my curiosity is genuine: what is it that you’re doing that is, by appearance to me, a common transaction (perhaps multiple times per day?) wherein you want to be absolutely sure that the customer assented to lengthy terms and conditions and you’re often going into court (at least so often that you want it to be “easier for” you)? And, as a follow-up, how does this relate to a signature being used as confirmation of payment? (Or did you mean in relation to the signatures for housing transfers?)
jjeaff 9y ago
When we raised money from several VCs (using some of the top legal firms in silicon valley and NYC) all we had to sign was the very last page which had only the signature lines on it. It could have been attached to anything. And in fact, sometimes, they emailed us the signature page separately for us to sign, scan and send back. So I don't really think there is really much legal benefit to having stuff on every page to sign.
- user5994461 9y ago
  Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean there isn't a legal benefit. A paper contract must be done in two copies. Every page numbered and signed by both parties. That's the only way to cover your ass against the other party replacing pages and terms.
  - jjeaff 9y ago
    No one does that for large contracts. We would have had to sign over 1,200 pages.
- matte_black 9y ago
  I recommend reading what you signed, you may be getting taken to the cleaners.