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This is a very dangerous way of thinking. I can think of at least five people in my social network who have died as a direct result of seeking naturopathic med

This is a very dangerous way of thinking. I can think of at least five people in my social network who have died as a direct result of seeking naturopathic medicine for their serious illnesses instead of proper medical care. Please do not encourage more people to do this.

Xeoncross 9y ago
I can think of 250,000 people in the United States alone who died last year because they sought proper medical care but died because of medical mistakes and bad prescriptions. In addition there were those that were harmed, but not fatally (of whom I know several). https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_su...
- Retric 9y ago
  That's a very misleading statistic, many of these people might have lived with the best possible care but would have still died without treatment. Heathy people rarely seek major surgery for example.
  - numismatex 9y ago
    Wealthy people are those who do, for example.
- deleted 9y ago
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- baddox 9y ago
  I think both examples need to provide a denominator.
electriclove 9y ago
Any particular naturopathic medicine in common?
banach 9y ago
There are conditions that are considered incurable by "proper" medicine (e.g. Alzheimer's disease) and discouraging people from looking elsewhere (e.g. http://www.aging-us.com/article/100690 http://www.aging-us.com/article/100690) in those cases is just as dangerous. People are capable of considering multiple options simultaneously, and should be encouraged to inform themselves about the available treatments. In cases when two medical theories are truly incompatible, give people the right to decide what gamble they want to take, and understand that, in both cases, outcomes are uncertain.
JoshMnem 9y ago
A "more holistic approach" doesn't necessarily mean "naturopathic medicine" or not seeking proper medical care.
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  Exactly. Thank you.
chiefalchemist 9y ago
I did not say naturopathic medicine. What I said was, things that were "scientifically" dismissed are rventuallt redemed. Acupuncture comes to mind. As do other approaches that help strengthen the gut. Etc. That said, how many people have died, suffered or lived otherwise uncured from the tunnel vision of traditional medicine? I wish I had $20 for every time I heard "...the doctors aren't sure what it is..." Your point is a good one. Let's just be fair to apply it evenly to all those who offer cures. Oh! And let's not forget the "opioid crisis." Not only is that driven by the misunderstanding of pain, but the so called cure kills time and time again. Let's be fair. Please.

Xeoncross 9y ago

I can think of 250,000 people in the United States alone who died last year because they sought proper medical care but died because of medical mistakes and bad prescriptions. In addition there were those that were harmed, but not fatally (of whom I know several). https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_su...

Retric 9y ago
That's a very misleading statistic, many of these people might have lived with the best possible care but would have still died without treatment. Heathy people rarely seek major surgery for example.
- numismatex 9y ago
  Wealthy people are those who do, for example.
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baddox 9y ago
I think both examples need to provide a denominator.

electriclove 9y ago

Any particular naturopathic medicine in common?

banach 9y ago

There are conditions that are considered incurable by "proper" medicine (e.g. Alzheimer's disease) and discouraging people from looking elsewhere (e.g. http://www.aging-us.com/article/100690 http://www.aging-us.com/article/100690) in those cases is just as dangerous. People are capable of considering multiple options simultaneously, and should be encouraged to inform themselves about the available treatments. In cases when two medical theories are truly incompatible, give people the right to decide what gamble they want to take, and understand that, in both cases, outcomes are uncertain.

JoshMnem 9y ago

A "more holistic approach" doesn't necessarily mean "naturopathic medicine" or not seeking proper medical care.

chiefalchemist 9y ago
Exactly. Thank you.

chiefalchemist 9y ago

I did not say naturopathic medicine. What I said was, things that were "scientifically" dismissed are rventuallt redemed. Acupuncture comes to mind. As do other approaches that help strengthen the gut. Etc. That said, how many people have died, suffered or lived otherwise uncured from the tunnel vision of traditional medicine? I wish I had $20 for every time I heard "...the doctors aren't sure what it is..." Your point is a good one. Let's just be fair to apply it evenly to all those who offer cures. Oh! And let's not forget the "opioid crisis." Not only is that driven by the misunderstanding of pain, but the so called cure kills time and time again. Let's be fair. Please.