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Maybe they should have scheduled maintenance closures that reoccur over the same parts of the day every day. Say, 1-5am?. So, it would be a 20hr/day instead of
by kgc 9y ago
Maybe they should have scheduled maintenance closures that reoccur over the same parts of the day every day. Say, 1-5am?. So, it would be a 20hr/day instead of 24hr/day subway, but would be dependable during those 20 hrs.
- pmiller2 9y agoThen how do people get home from the bars? That's my major complaint about BART, that it stops running too early. If I'm out late enough in the city, I can't return to the East Bay easily, so I either end up stressing to get the last train, or end up having to use my car, which has its own stress involved.
- anonymfus 9y agoIn Moscow where Metro is officially closed from 1:00 up to 5:30 there are special night buses and trams for this.
- twic 9y agoSame in London (buses, not sure about trams). Catching a night bus home from Trafalgar Square along with eighty other people who are also at the wrong end of a big night out is a classic rite of passage for Londoners. It got a bit less overwhelming when they started running the night buses from all over central London rather than just from Trafalgar Square. It's changed again recently now that some underground lines are 24 hour.
- dx034 9y agoLondon night tube remains weekends only, though. And even then, 30% of passengers are going from/to work. The importance of a 24h subway is not to get drunk people home but to help people working night/early shifts. The main reason London will not get intra-week night tube anytime soon is because of the maintenance issues this causes. The NYC subway was explicitly mentioned when this was proposed.
- cheeze 9y agoUber/Lyft? Cab?
- pmiller2 9y agoWorks great, assuming I can get someone to actually take me across the bridge (I had to complain to Lyft about this before), and spend 7-10x as much as BART would cost.
- parent5446 9y agoOne of the sole advantages of NYC taxis: they are required by law to take you anywhere within city limits you ask.
- ng12 9y agoYes, and an NYC cabbie would _never_ willingly ignore a regulation like that.
- DrScump 9y agoBut there's a legal sanction for doing so; it's a condition of their license.
- parent5446 9y agoI acknowledge your sarcasm, but indeed they rarely do. It's happened to me only once, and it was fairly easy to report them to the TLC.
- dx034 9y agoI don't know a single city where license numbers and the complaint hotline are so prominently placed as in NYC. I believe it was common that cabbies ignored regulation but this appears to have changed in recent years.
- DrScump 9y agoassuming I can get someone to actually take me across the bridge That would generally mean the driver would have to eat the entire return trip; Lyft won't pay for that time, mileage, or loss of other fares.
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- yardie 9y agoNight bus. The MTA has more than trains.
- pmiller2 9y agoSure, theoretically, that would work, if I were near either of the 2 bus stops in SF that serve the line I'd need to take. Those buses also only run every 20 minutes when they're on schedule. It's not a great solution.
- ajdlinux 9y agoYou can run specific night-time substitute buses that follow the train route between stations rather than the regular street-side bus stops.
- r00fus 9y agoSo make it 3D/wk or something. Period ongoing maintenance is key to sustainability.
- jac_no_k 9y agoTokyo transit also stops operating after 1am. I live about 30km outside of the core Tokyo area and I have to leave around 11pm otherwise I'm walking part of the way home. It is possible to stay at a private club until the train restarts around 5am. Alternates is Internet / Manga Cafes complete with shower rooms, coin operated clean underwear dispensers, and lounge chairs that lie almost flat. Also helpful is the convenience stores that sell dress shirts.
- ajdlinux 9y agoHighly controversial opinion - if we need to shut down some services during the night hours to ensure they're well maintained, and it's not reasonably possible to do the necessary maintenance any other way, then maybe the population needs to adapt its behaviour. Obviously, some people work overnight shifts or have other critical needs for transport around the clock, so there needs to be a reasonable level of public transport services for that purpose. But if the problem is that people can't stay out late at bars, then... maybe they just shouldn't stay out late at bars if they don't have a way home? I am deliberately ignoring the obvious issues with drink driving risks, flow-on effects of the "nighttime economy" and so on here. Also, I'm an introverted non-drinker who doesn't understand why people are out drinking at 2am when they could be sleeping at 2am... So more practically, yes, you need decent coverage of night-time substitute bus routes.
- make3 9y agokeep it open at night Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays, as close at night the other days?
- piva00 9y agoReplacement busses as other normal major cities around the world?
- taobility 9y agoDo you know there is a transit option called Taxi?