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Thanks EU, we'll have more popups than ever that everyone's going to agree out of habit. It's not fun seeing a popup on every site you visit. This should have

by asadkn 9y ago

Thanks EU, we'll have more popups than ever that everyone's going to agree out of habit. It's not fun seeing a popup on every site you visit. This should have been a brower-based implementation globally that every site must adhere to. Even worse for me, I browse exclusively in private/incognito mode and this is going to make that unusable with consent popups on sites on every visit.

return0 9y ago
> This should have been a brower-based implementation globally that every site must adhere to. This. if EU actually cared enough, they 'd go to the browser vendors to enforce some basic prompts on tracking and forms, and it would be better than gdpr because it would work for everyone from day 1. This law will bring a few more prompts and not much else (because most services can be provided with slight changes like hashed ips). Cookie prompts on every site you visit on your slow-ass phone connection are really really annoying and should go away. But americans don't protest about them because they don't see them and europeans are , well, sheepish.
- knoke 9y ago
  That's exactly one of the things that might happen with the ePrivacy Regulation: "By centralising the consent in software such as internet browsers and prompting users to choose their privacy settings and expanding the exceptions to the cookie consent rule, a significant proportion of businesses would be able to do away with cookie banners and notices, thus leading to potentially significant cost savings and simplification." http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=41241 http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=41241
- detaro 9y ago
  Or the tech industry could decide that'd be useful to have and implement it. They could put it in a HTTP header with a nice name, maybe "do not track", and don't bother people activating that with tracking or prompts. Oh wait... How many websites are doing that? How many choose "let's bother our users" over respecting their stated preference?
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- molf 9y ago
  IIRC this is exactly what is being done with the upcoming ePrivacy directive. For example I believe it will become mandatory to honour the DNT header.
  - merinowool 9y ago
    You are still going to display a popup to know if user is aware of his setting for a particular website.
vilmosi 9y ago
I'm not bothered by it. If websites see their engagement fall due to so many popups, maybe they'll stop asking for so many things that require consent. Come to think of it, maybe that's the point.
- return1 9y ago
  A few weeks ago the internet was on fire because the abolishment of net neutrality law would kill the small startups who were trying to compete with giants. It's interesting to see people supporting the exact opposite situation now.
dannyw 9y ago
The popups have to allow users to say no. They can't require your consent for <XYZ> if it is not directly related to providing the service.

by asadkn 9y ago

return0 9y ago

> This should have been a brower-based implementation globally that every site must adhere to. This. if EU actually cared enough, they 'd go to the browser vendors to enforce some basic prompts on tracking and forms, and it would be better than gdpr because it would work for everyone from day 1. This law will bring a few more prompts and not much else (because most services can be provided with slight changes like hashed ips). Cookie prompts on every site you visit on your slow-ass phone connection are really really annoying and should go away. But americans don't protest about them because they don't see them and europeans are , well, sheepish.

knoke 9y ago
That's exactly one of the things that might happen with the ePrivacy Regulation: "By centralising the consent in software such as internet browsers and prompting users to choose their privacy settings and expanding the exceptions to the cookie consent rule, a significant proportion of businesses would be able to do away with cookie banners and notices, thus leading to potentially significant cost savings and simplification." http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=41241 http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=41241
detaro 9y ago
Or the tech industry could decide that'd be useful to have and implement it. They could put it in a HTTP header with a nice name, maybe "do not track", and don't bother people activating that with tracking or prompts. Oh wait... How many websites are doing that? How many choose "let's bother our users" over respecting their stated preference?
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molf 9y ago
IIRC this is exactly what is being done with the upcoming ePrivacy directive. For example I believe it will become mandatory to honour the DNT header.
- merinowool 9y ago
  You are still going to display a popup to know if user is aware of his setting for a particular website.

vilmosi 9y ago

I'm not bothered by it. If websites see their engagement fall due to so many popups, maybe they'll stop asking for so many things that require consent. Come to think of it, maybe that's the point.

return1 9y ago
A few weeks ago the internet was on fire because the abolishment of net neutrality law would kill the small startups who were trying to compete with giants. It's interesting to see people supporting the exact opposite situation now.

dannyw 9y ago

The popups have to allow users to say no. They can't require your consent for <XYZ> if it is not directly related to providing the service.