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The enormous demand for medically useless endangered animal parts in China is surreal and tragic. Sounds like this will be the 2nd large mammal extinction this

The enormous demand for medically useless endangered animal parts in China is surreal and tragic. Sounds like this will be the 2nd large mammal extinction this year (white rhino) purely because of stupid people paying enormous amounts of money for fraudulent TCM cures.

ryanlol 9y ago
Perhaps this could be solved by corrupting the supply chains with endangered animal parts enriched with lethal poisons? Surely the demand for medically useless and deadly products would fall pretty fast.
- mvid 9y ago
  The same argument would probably be made to combat the illegal drug trade. Not sure we want to go there
  - downer63 9y ago
    To be brutally honest, recreational drug use is absurdly overrated, and the people that insist on engaging in cool kid drug experimentation merit badges are selfish to the point that they wouldn't be missed. Bombs away, and let it burn.
    - tree_of_item 9y ago
      Many of the "drugs" that are illegal are not harmful in any way, such as psilocybin mushrooms. How ridiculous would it be to poison people seeking such a safe substance? To be brutally honest you sound like a sociopath.
    - jdavis703 9y ago
      Should coffee, Coca Cola, tea, wine and beer also be banned? I've known some religious people who legitimately don't consume any of those products, but trying to impose such a regime on the general population would probably work as well as when the Japanese emperor tried to make everyone vegetarian (hint it didn't work very well).
    - beedogs 9y ago
      So edgy. You made a brand new account just to post this trash?
      - downer63 9y ago
        It's worth it to expand the conversation. Drugs aren't incredible, and really, seriously wouldn't be worth the effort even if they were 100% legal. And how many people get sucked into the party kid bullshit, because they want to fit in and impress people. AKA: doing drugs to seem edgy.
        sannee 9y ago
        You seem to be doing drugs wrong - I have taken drugs recreationally and have never been to a "party". Actually thinking about it, I have never taken drugs in any social setting at all (including alcohol).
  - ryanlol 9y ago
    It is far more difficult to condemn illegal drug trade and consumption than it is to condemn the trade and consumption of completely ineffective "medicine". Drug production and use generally causes little damage, the same does not apply for this insane "natural medicine" practiced by some people.
    - ramblerman 9y ago
      > Drug production and use generally causes little damage Illegal drug production causes immense damage. Look at Columbia circa 1990 for an extreme example. As for condemnation, that is entirely subjective. Poisoning the well and accepting random damage to save animals is not imo a morally just move.
- Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
  This tactic was (in)famously used during prohibition in the United States.
- chaostheory 9y ago
  1. It doesn't work. It was done by the US gov with alcohol during the Prohibition era. 2. The main end result is that you're essentially sentencing people to death for this crime.
- pvaldes 9y ago
  Is much simpler than this, just a case of wrong politicians that just don't care. Would be the army able to survey, control and stablish a exclusion perimeter against illegal fishermen in a relatively small spot of sea in a relatively closed bay without using harmful sonars?
- toomanybeersies 9y ago
  They tried that in the prohibition with alcohol, and again with the war on drugs. The problem is that you just end up killing or making sick the end of the supply chain, the end user. Disregarding the moral issues of poisoning people, it costs a lot of money, because then you have to treat these sick people. Secondly, the worst criminals (assuming that using drugs or alcohol is a crime), the suppliers and dealers, don't actually get affected by this. People will try and get their fix regardless. People are buying fentanyl and killing themselves wholesale, and the people dealing it out don't give a fuck that they're killing their customers.
- beedogs 9y ago
  I like the tried-and-true method of just shooting poachers.

ryanlol 9y ago

Perhaps this could be solved by corrupting the supply chains with endangered animal parts enriched with lethal poisons? Surely the demand for medically useless and deadly products would fall pretty fast.

mvid 9y ago
The same argument would probably be made to combat the illegal drug trade. Not sure we want to go there
- downer63 9y ago
  To be brutally honest, recreational drug use is absurdly overrated, and the people that insist on engaging in cool kid drug experimentation merit badges are selfish to the point that they wouldn't be missed. Bombs away, and let it burn.
  - tree_of_item 9y ago
    Many of the "drugs" that are illegal are not harmful in any way, such as psilocybin mushrooms. How ridiculous would it be to poison people seeking such a safe substance? To be brutally honest you sound like a sociopath.
  - jdavis703 9y ago
    Should coffee, Coca Cola, tea, wine and beer also be banned? I've known some religious people who legitimately don't consume any of those products, but trying to impose such a regime on the general population would probably work as well as when the Japanese emperor tried to make everyone vegetarian (hint it didn't work very well).
  - beedogs 9y ago
    So edgy. You made a brand new account just to post this trash?
    - downer63 9y ago
      It's worth it to expand the conversation. Drugs aren't incredible, and really, seriously wouldn't be worth the effort even if they were 100% legal. And how many people get sucked into the party kid bullshit, because they want to fit in and impress people. AKA: doing drugs to seem edgy.
      - sannee 9y ago
        You seem to be doing drugs wrong - I have taken drugs recreationally and have never been to a "party". Actually thinking about it, I have never taken drugs in any social setting at all (including alcohol).
- ryanlol 9y ago
  It is far more difficult to condemn illegal drug trade and consumption than it is to condemn the trade and consumption of completely ineffective "medicine". Drug production and use generally causes little damage, the same does not apply for this insane "natural medicine" practiced by some people.
  - ramblerman 9y ago
    > Drug production and use generally causes little damage Illegal drug production causes immense damage. Look at Columbia circa 1990 for an extreme example. As for condemnation, that is entirely subjective. Poisoning the well and accepting random damage to save animals is not imo a morally just move.
Sir_Cmpwn 9y ago
This tactic was (in)famously used during prohibition in the United States.
chaostheory 9y ago
1. It doesn't work. It was done by the US gov with alcohol during the Prohibition era. 2. The main end result is that you're essentially sentencing people to death for this crime.
pvaldes 9y ago
Is much simpler than this, just a case of wrong politicians that just don't care. Would be the army able to survey, control and stablish a exclusion perimeter against illegal fishermen in a relatively small spot of sea in a relatively closed bay without using harmful sonars?
toomanybeersies 9y ago
They tried that in the prohibition with alcohol, and again with the war on drugs. The problem is that you just end up killing or making sick the end of the supply chain, the end user. Disregarding the moral issues of poisoning people, it costs a lot of money, because then you have to treat these sick people. Secondly, the worst criminals (assuming that using drugs or alcohol is a crime), the suppliers and dealers, don't actually get affected by this. People will try and get their fix regardless. People are buying fentanyl and killing themselves wholesale, and the people dealing it out don't give a fuck that they're killing their customers.
beedogs 9y ago
I like the tried-and-true method of just shooting poachers.