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Some people get life in prison for things they do at 19.

by mainthread 8y ago

hcnews 8y ago
Good for him that he isn't black in today's America.
- bmpafa 8y ago
  or rather, good for him he isn't poor? or would a black Harvard student have been prosecuted for this crime?
  - maxxxxx 8y ago
    Being poor is probably what counts the most but being black woldn't help either.
  - sangnoir 8y ago
    Here's the harrowing experience of a multi-millionaire athlete at the hands of the police: https://www.theroot.com/video-nfl-player-michael-bennett-assaulted-by-police-a-1800817157 https://www.theroot.com/video-nfl-player-michael-bennett-ass...
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  This week there was an event at the UFC where on of their biggest fighters (Conor McGregor) and a dozen or so of his associates attacked a bus, smashed windows and injured several people in the bus who then couldn't fight at the event. He posted 50k bail and is now on the way home to Ireland. When I saw this I thought to myself if some poor black teenagers had done exactly the same thing they would be in jail for the next 10 years or be dead by now.
  - acct1771 8y ago
    You're making this about race when it's about money. If instead of MacGregor and his goonsquad, Floyd Mayweather and his goonsquad had done this, it'd have resulted in more or less the same outcome.
    - maxxxxx 8y ago
      I wrote "poor black". I think being poor gets counted the most but being black also gets counted against you. I think the point of this thread is that bad behavior gets treated differently for different people. I don't even want to consider what would have happened if a bunch of illegal Muslim immigrants had attacked the bus.
      - baud147258 8y ago
        Considering the number of car that's getting burned every year in new Year's eve in France, I'd that in France they can do that without repercussion.
  - heedlessly3 8y ago
    Jon Jones hit a pregnant woman with his car and got away with it.
bmpafa 8y ago
If they lacked the foresight to be born wealthy and enroll in an ivy league college, that's their fault. Cyni-casm aside, yours is a crucial point I think gets forgotten too often. Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. Obviously substantially different crimes, but the comments were mostly people salivating at this "animal" getting "what he deserved." Anyway, thanks for mentioning this point.
- user982 8y ago
  > Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. You misread this, likely because that would have made more sense than what actually occurred. The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death. The involved law and its application are interesting interpretations of the idea of justice. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/07/ala-teen-turns-down-25-year-plea-deal-gets-sentenced-to-65-years-instead-and-laughs.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/07/ala-teen-turns-down-25-...)
  - Urbanxassassin 8y ago
    And even if he misread what actually happened, the point was young people get serious consequences quite often. Why should Zuckerberg be viewed any differently? Either change the system to judge younger people especially minors less harsh or be consistent.
  - sangnoir 8y ago
    > The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death. What the actual fuck? Then again, I can't say I'm suprised that it's in Alabama.
    - JackCh 8y ago

Some people get life in prison for things they do at 19.

hcnews 8y ago

Good for him that he isn't black in today's America.

bmpafa 8y ago
or rather, good for him he isn't poor? or would a black Harvard student have been prosecuted for this crime?
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  Being poor is probably what counts the most but being black woldn't help either.
- sangnoir 8y ago
  Here's the harrowing experience of a multi-millionaire athlete at the hands of the police: https://www.theroot.com/video-nfl-player-michael-bennett-assaulted-by-police-a-1800817157 https://www.theroot.com/video-nfl-player-michael-bennett-ass...
maxxxxx 8y ago
This week there was an event at the UFC where on of their biggest fighters (Conor McGregor) and a dozen or so of his associates attacked a bus, smashed windows and injured several people in the bus who then couldn't fight at the event. He posted 50k bail and is now on the way home to Ireland. When I saw this I thought to myself if some poor black teenagers had done exactly the same thing they would be in jail for the next 10 years or be dead by now.
- acct1771 8y ago
  You're making this about race when it's about money. If instead of MacGregor and his goonsquad, Floyd Mayweather and his goonsquad had done this, it'd have resulted in more or less the same outcome.
  - maxxxxx 8y ago
    I wrote "poor black". I think being poor gets counted the most but being black also gets counted against you. I think the point of this thread is that bad behavior gets treated differently for different people. I don't even want to consider what would have happened if a bunch of illegal Muslim immigrants had attacked the bus.
    - baud147258 8y ago
      Considering the number of car that's getting burned every year in new Year's eve in France, I'd that in France they can do that without repercussion.
- heedlessly3 8y ago
  Jon Jones hit a pregnant woman with his car and got away with it.

bmpafa 8y ago

If they lacked the foresight to be born wealthy and enroll in an ivy league college, that's their fault. Cyni-casm aside, yours is a crucial point I think gets forgotten too often. Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. Obviously substantially different crimes, but the comments were mostly people salivating at this "animal" getting "what he deserved." Anyway, thanks for mentioning this point.

user982 8y ago
> Just yesterday I was scrolling through the comments on a Fox News post about an 18 year old who'd been sentenced to 25 yrs for being present during robbery when his friend killed someone. You misread this, likely because that would have made more sense than what actually occurred. The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death. The involved law and its application are interesting interpretations of the idea of justice. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/07/ala-teen-turns-down-25-year-plea-deal-gets-sentenced-to-65-years-instead-and-laughs.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/07/ala-teen-turns-down-25-...)
- Urbanxassassin 8y ago
  And even if he misread what actually happened, the point was young people get serious consequences quite often. Why should Zuckerberg be viewed any differently? Either change the system to judge younger people especially minors less harsh or be consistent.
- sangnoir 8y ago
  > The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death. What the actual fuck? Then again, I can't say I'm suprised that it's in Alabama.
  - JackCh 8y ago