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Fragmenta – A Golang CMS

100 points by gbugniot 9y ago

buro9 9y ago
Question: Does this mean there are finally good i18n and l10n packages in Go? My first glance looks seems to suggest no, but I want to be wrong.
- artpar 9y ago
  What do you think about this https://github.com/go-playground/universal-translator https://github.com/go-playground/universal-translator ? I am planning to use this as the core component to provide i18n for sites hosted on daptin cms.
  - buro9 9y ago
    That looks... adequate :) Which is probably good enough for now. This is where I hope some package is really good and makes it into core.
marcosscriven 9y ago
I like the 'styled editing' - not seen that before. Is that difficult to achieve? Agree with the other points on the focus on Go vs functionality.
tpaksoy 9y ago
Site seems to be down, cached mirror from Google: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3feSvC3PndQJ:https://fragmenta.eu/+&cd=1 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3feSvC...
sdrothrock 9y ago
The landing page seems to be a little confused about what it's advertising. To me this should either be targeting people who need a CMS or people who want to use Golang. If I'm just a guy who needs a CMS, then I really want to know what this offers as a CMS vs any other solution. I don't think it would really matter to me whether this was written in Golang or PHP or Python since I'd want to use the system to manage my content, not be writing code for it. The tagline "build websites with Go" is even a bit scary because it makes it sound like rather than being a CMS, this is something where I need to know how to program in order to use it. But everything else on the page is very dev-oriented... but in that case, as a dev, I'd really rather have the install, capabilities, requirements, etc. up front in a clean table rather than the CMS GUI demo. Maybe I'm alone in feeling this way, though. :)
- nostalgeek 9y ago
  The landing page is clearly not the one of a mature product. There is next to no documentation whatsoever about how it is supposed to work, and don't even try to get started with it if you don't know how to program with Go, nor have installed Go on your machine. > The tagline "build websites with Go" is even a bit scary because it makes it sound like rather than being a CMS, this is something where I need to know how to program in order to use it. This isn't a CMS for non developers, obviously. This isn't Wordpress. If you are not a developer and don't need advanced features like a comment system, you'd be better of with a tool like "Hugo" which generates static HTML files from manifests that you can then upload on any cheap host via SFTP. It's more secure and performs better than a solution running its own server.
  - petepete 9y ago
    The middleground is a difficult balance; being simple enough for 'normal' users but allowing power users to take advantage of version control and working with plain text. I attempted to build something that fits the bill by building a self-hosted Git powered CMS that publishes with Hugo. https://www.graphia.co.uk https://www.graphia.co.uk
  - cies 9y ago
    > This isn't a CMS for non developers, obviously. This isn't Wordpress. That could be emphasized. "Set of libraries by which devs can quickly create robust and performant CMS providing a UI that content editors love to use."
  - deanclatworthy 9y ago
    I really don’t see the value proposition in Hugo anymore and I’ve used it and am still am. I’m about to move my site over to Wordpress and deploy it using one of the static site generators. With ACF everything is so easy and quick.
    - pbowyer 9y ago
      Which static site generators are you considering?
petard 9y ago
Latest commit on the Github is from Aug 2017, doesn't seem that well maintained.
conradk 9y ago
It's amazing that in 2018 we keep building new CMSs. Human curiosity is without limits. I'm genuinely amazed about this. And seeing a CMS built with Go is refreshing. I have to say though, the "What doesn't it do?" section seems like an extension of the "What does it do?" section. A "What doesn't it do?" should list what the CMS actually doesn't do instead of listing things nobody wants anyway. Who wants "hundreds of complicated back-end screens"? No-one. So no need to say that the CMS doesn't do that.
- tootie 9y ago
  My favorite CMS at the moment is Contentful. It's hosted, self-managed and headless. I have no idea what language it's written in and I don't care.

100 points by gbugniot 9y ago

Question: Does this mean there are finally good i18n and l10n packages in Go? My first glance looks seems to suggest no, but I want to be wrong.

artpar 9y ago
What do you think about this https://github.com/go-playground/universal-translator https://github.com/go-playground/universal-translator ? I am planning to use this as the core component to provide i18n for sites hosted on daptin cms.
- buro9 9y ago
  That looks... adequate :) Which is probably good enough for now. This is where I hope some package is really good and makes it into core.

marcosscriven 9y ago

I like the 'styled editing' - not seen that before. Is that difficult to achieve? Agree with the other points on the focus on Go vs functionality.

tpaksoy 9y ago

Site seems to be down, cached mirror from Google: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3feSvC3PndQJ:https://fragmenta.eu/+&cd=1 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3feSvC...

sdrothrock 9y ago

The landing page seems to be a little confused about what it's advertising. To me this should either be targeting people who need a CMS or people who want to use Golang. If I'm just a guy who needs a CMS, then I really want to know what this offers as a CMS vs any other solution. I don't think it would really matter to me whether this was written in Golang or PHP or Python since I'd want to use the system to manage my content, not be writing code for it. The tagline "build websites with Go" is even a bit scary because it makes it sound like rather than being a CMS, this is something where I need to know how to program in order to use it. But everything else on the page is very dev-oriented... but in that case, as a dev, I'd really rather have the install, capabilities, requirements, etc. up front in a clean table rather than the CMS GUI demo. Maybe I'm alone in feeling this way, though. :)

nostalgeek 9y ago
The landing page is clearly not the one of a mature product. There is next to no documentation whatsoever about how it is supposed to work, and don't even try to get started with it if you don't know how to program with Go, nor have installed Go on your machine. > The tagline "build websites with Go" is even a bit scary because it makes it sound like rather than being a CMS, this is something where I need to know how to program in order to use it. This isn't a CMS for non developers, obviously. This isn't Wordpress. If you are not a developer and don't need advanced features like a comment system, you'd be better of with a tool like "Hugo" which generates static HTML files from manifests that you can then upload on any cheap host via SFTP. It's more secure and performs better than a solution running its own server.
- petepete 9y ago
  The middleground is a difficult balance; being simple enough for 'normal' users but allowing power users to take advantage of version control and working with plain text. I attempted to build something that fits the bill by building a self-hosted Git powered CMS that publishes with Hugo. https://www.graphia.co.uk https://www.graphia.co.uk
- cies 9y ago
  > This isn't a CMS for non developers, obviously. This isn't Wordpress. That could be emphasized. "Set of libraries by which devs can quickly create robust and performant CMS providing a UI that content editors love to use."
- deanclatworthy 9y ago
  I really don’t see the value proposition in Hugo anymore and I’ve used it and am still am. I’m about to move my site over to Wordpress and deploy it using one of the static site generators. With ACF everything is so easy and quick.
  - pbowyer 9y ago
    Which static site generators are you considering?

petard 9y ago

Latest commit on the Github is from Aug 2017, doesn't seem that well maintained.

conradk 9y ago

It's amazing that in 2018 we keep building new CMSs. Human curiosity is without limits. I'm genuinely amazed about this. And seeing a CMS built with Go is refreshing. I have to say though, the "What doesn't it do?" section seems like an extension of the "What does it do?" section. A "What doesn't it do?" should list what the CMS actually doesn't do instead of listing things nobody wants anyway. Who wants "hundreds of complicated back-end screens"? No-one. So no need to say that the CMS doesn't do that.

tootie 9y ago
My favorite CMS at the moment is Contentful. It's hosted, self-managed and headless. I have no idea what language it's written in and I don't care.