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Personally, when I don't like what someone said, I don't smear them with antisemitism. Buy hey, each to his own. I have noticed that's a common go-to when anyo

Personally, when I don't like what someone said, I don't smear them with antisemitism. Buy hey, each to his own. I have noticed that's a common go-to when anyone points out having sovereign countries is a good thing, maybe they just cant argue it on the merits. I'll leave it here, since it's non-HN stuff.

Molaxx 9y ago
I never said sovereign states aren't a good idea. I believe they are, but I also believe the nationalistic sentiment is a double edged sword. But all of this has nothing to do with my comment. The point was, You fire off with unbased claims that are tainted by paranoia. As a joke I referenced similiar type of claims. I guess It was a mistake since it gave you an easy out from actually substinating your claims.
- jakeogh 9y ago
  So you double down with a label? You asked for a cite on based, that's opinion, like saying "is awesome". I could easily go into why I think that, but it's pointless since it's not a statement of fact that one needs citations for. Maybe you want to move the goalpost to your second reply? If so, the TPP, EU, and similar pushes for a NAU (very much on hold due to the backlash aka "nationalism" in the US) are well funded examples.
  - Molaxx 9y ago
    Claiming something is based literally means it's based on something. That something is usually expected to be some fact or some research. If that something is just your opinion, than it's misleading to use the term based. The whole point of my original reply to the OP was seeking citations for his claim. Why did you even reply if it was just to add an opinion? Why are you still on the whole global government thing? It has nothing to do with this discussion.
    - jakeogh 9y ago
      "based" in that context, like "my friend is pretty based" is slang. Very common in circles that are happy about the election outcome and the current US economy etc. Admittedly it's recent (2016ish) slang in that usage. It's basically like like saying "my friend is well grounded" or more specifically "my friend has self consistent opinions" with a touch of "I agree with my friends opinions". Please don't ask me for a cite, it's too new, and I would rather not link to a hundred thousand reddit posts.
      - Molaxx 9y ago
        That's pretty Orwellian. It completely muddles the water and make it very hard to separate opinion and fact. Sounds dangerous to me. Anyway, let me get it straight. you didn't mean that Gen Z is a real thing i.e. its existance is based on facts. Just that you agree with the supposed opinions of this hypothetical construct? This makes your original reply even more baffling to me as it really has nothing to do with my comment. I guess I should've been more explicit.
        jakeogh 9y ago
        I get how you could miss that "based" was not being used in the context you expected, although the period after it instead of "in" or "on" should be a clue, now you want me to explain GenZ? It's a demographic group. Like GenX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z "Gen Z is pretty based." translates to: "I, in general, like the way Gen Z is turning out."
        Molaxx 9y ago
        I don't see anything about nationalistic sentiment in that wiki page. Still I have no idea why you replied to my comment in the first place. It had nothing to do with what I posted. It's good for you that you like genz, but maybe next time tell it to someone that's interested in that fact.
        9y ago
PhasmaFelis 9y ago
You still haven't given a source for your "global government" claim.

Molaxx 9y ago

I never said sovereign states aren't a good idea. I believe they are, but I also believe the nationalistic sentiment is a double edged sword. But all of this has nothing to do with my comment. The point was, You fire off with unbased claims that are tainted by paranoia. As a joke I referenced similiar type of claims. I guess It was a mistake since it gave you an easy out from actually substinating your claims.

jakeogh 9y ago
So you double down with a label? You asked for a cite on based, that's opinion, like saying "is awesome". I could easily go into why I think that, but it's pointless since it's not a statement of fact that one needs citations for. Maybe you want to move the goalpost to your second reply? If so, the TPP, EU, and similar pushes for a NAU (very much on hold due to the backlash aka "nationalism" in the US) are well funded examples.
- Molaxx 9y ago
  Claiming something is based literally means it's based on something. That something is usually expected to be some fact or some research. If that something is just your opinion, than it's misleading to use the term based. The whole point of my original reply to the OP was seeking citations for his claim. Why did you even reply if it was just to add an opinion? Why are you still on the whole global government thing? It has nothing to do with this discussion.
  - jakeogh 9y ago
    "based" in that context, like "my friend is pretty based" is slang. Very common in circles that are happy about the election outcome and the current US economy etc. Admittedly it's recent (2016ish) slang in that usage. It's basically like like saying "my friend is well grounded" or more specifically "my friend has self consistent opinions" with a touch of "I agree with my friends opinions". Please don't ask me for a cite, it's too new, and I would rather not link to a hundred thousand reddit posts.
    - Molaxx 9y ago
      That's pretty Orwellian. It completely muddles the water and make it very hard to separate opinion and fact. Sounds dangerous to me. Anyway, let me get it straight. you didn't mean that Gen Z is a real thing i.e. its existance is based on facts. Just that you agree with the supposed opinions of this hypothetical construct? This makes your original reply even more baffling to me as it really has nothing to do with my comment. I guess I should've been more explicit.
      - jakeogh 9y ago
        I get how you could miss that "based" was not being used in the context you expected, although the period after it instead of "in" or "on" should be a clue, now you want me to explain GenZ? It's a demographic group. Like GenX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Z "Gen Z is pretty based." translates to: "I, in general, like the way Gen Z is turning out."
        Molaxx 9y ago
        I don't see anything about nationalistic sentiment in that wiki page. Still I have no idea why you replied to my comment in the first place. It had nothing to do with what I posted. It's good for you that you like genz, but maybe next time tell it to someone that's interested in that fact.
        9y ago

PhasmaFelis 9y ago

You still haven't given a source for your "global government" claim.