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If it wasn't done by the US government this is terrorism pure and simple, going by what the people in your source said: >"We were tired of attacks from governm

If it wasn't done by the US government this is terrorism pure and simple, going by what the people in your source said: >"We were tired of attacks from government-backed hackers on the United States and other countries," someone in control of an email address left in the note told Motherboard Saturday... "We simply wanted to send a message...." In addition to disabling the equipment, the hackers left a note on affected machines, according to screenshots and photographs shared on social media: "Don't mess with our elections," along with an image of an American flag...

lawnchair_larry 9y ago
Terrorism doesn’t happen over computers. This is simply a large inconvenience.
- techman9 9y ago
  What do you believe defines terrorism?
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oculusthrift 9y ago
i didn’t know there were people who thought iran rigged the election? are we off russia now? people know trump hates iran right?
- jakeogh 9y ago
  Iran's gov, not it's people. The US faction in power in 1953 disposed Mossadegh, allowing a worse power structure to take hold. Pretty standard order out of chaos thing. Looking up old pics of Iran is interesting. Eisenhower knew he got played and left with a important warning about what we now call the deep state.
  - selimthegrim 9y ago
    Mossadeq was no democrat.
    - mars4rp 9y ago
      Can someone please downvote this for me? He 65 years ago in middle east was way more Democrat than current US president! Read the book The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
      - jakeogh 9y ago
        If you have a critique of the Corbett Report's (YT) take on Allen I would appreciate your thoughts. I haven't read the book.
        mars4rp 9y ago
        I haven't watched the Corbett Report completely but it had too much conspiracy theories in it. Dulles brothers were very pro corporations and very very anti communist. John foster Dulles that became secretary of state under Eisenhower after ww2 was pro Hitler at the beginning of war (before US involvement) as an ally against Soviets. US banks gave Hitler huge loans before the war that helped him to rebuild the economy. The idea that a small country can challenge a corporation interest was something the Dulles brothers couldn't live with. The iran coup was the beginning. They used CIA to insure corporate interests anywhere in the world and they used communism as an excuse to do so. Mossadegh was one of the most democratic leaders of the middle east at least. At the height of his power he refused to close communist newspapers that were attacking him. Can you imagine Trump having that power and not using it because of his belief in free speech?
        jakeogh 9y ago
        Thanks. "Can you imagine Trump having that power and not using it because of his belief in free speech?" Whua? Yes of course. That's about as anti-conservative as it gets. His base would revolt. Free speech is right up there with property rights. Maybe you are confusing hitting back against (mockingbird) propaganda with a desire to do that, but I assure you, nobody is going to be closing newspapers, and he wouldn't want to if he could. Note is's not the conservatives trying to shut down speakers on college campuses, or remove YT chans they disagree with, or axe FB accounts (like Diamond and Silk) because they don't like what they say. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452924/donald-trump-constitution-limiting-executive-power http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452924/donald-trump-co...
FreedomWarrior 9y ago
> If it wasn't done by the US government this is terrorism Why would the situation be different if it turns out it was US government?
- cup 9y ago
  It would be an act of war.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    Acts of terrorism (other than top-down state terrorism) are usually acts of war whoever the perpetrator is.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> If it wasn't done by the US government this is terrorism pure and simple Whether it is terrorism is an orthogonal issue to whether it was done by the US Government.
c0nducktr 9y ago
> terrorism pure and simple, That word really has lost all meaning.
CalRobert 9y ago
I imagine you think spam is pretty terrifying too?
- zeth___ 9y ago
  Most of the US political class seems to. That's why we're having the whole Trump/Russia investigation after all.

lawnchair_larry 9y ago

Terrorism doesn’t happen over computers. This is simply a large inconvenience.

techman9 9y ago
What do you believe defines terrorism?
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oculusthrift 9y ago

i didn’t know there were people who thought iran rigged the election? are we off russia now? people know trump hates iran right?

jakeogh 9y ago
Iran's gov, not it's people. The US faction in power in 1953 disposed Mossadegh, allowing a worse power structure to take hold. Pretty standard order out of chaos thing. Looking up old pics of Iran is interesting. Eisenhower knew he got played and left with a important warning about what we now call the deep state.
- selimthegrim 9y ago
  Mossadeq was no democrat.
  - mars4rp 9y ago
    Can someone please downvote this for me? He 65 years ago in middle east was way more Democrat than current US president! Read the book The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
    - jakeogh 9y ago
      If you have a critique of the Corbett Report's (YT) take on Allen I would appreciate your thoughts. I haven't read the book.
      - mars4rp 9y ago
        I haven't watched the Corbett Report completely but it had too much conspiracy theories in it. Dulles brothers were very pro corporations and very very anti communist. John foster Dulles that became secretary of state under Eisenhower after ww2 was pro Hitler at the beginning of war (before US involvement) as an ally against Soviets. US banks gave Hitler huge loans before the war that helped him to rebuild the economy. The idea that a small country can challenge a corporation interest was something the Dulles brothers couldn't live with. The iran coup was the beginning. They used CIA to insure corporate interests anywhere in the world and they used communism as an excuse to do so. Mossadegh was one of the most democratic leaders of the middle east at least. At the height of his power he refused to close communist newspapers that were attacking him. Can you imagine Trump having that power and not using it because of his belief in free speech?
        jakeogh 9y ago
        Thanks. "Can you imagine Trump having that power and not using it because of his belief in free speech?" Whua? Yes of course. That's about as anti-conservative as it gets. His base would revolt. Free speech is right up there with property rights. Maybe you are confusing hitting back against (mockingbird) propaganda with a desire to do that, but I assure you, nobody is going to be closing newspapers, and he wouldn't want to if he could. Note is's not the conservatives trying to shut down speakers on college campuses, or remove YT chans they disagree with, or axe FB accounts (like Diamond and Silk) because they don't like what they say. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452924/donald-trump-constitution-limiting-executive-power http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452924/donald-trump-co...

FreedomWarrior 9y ago

> If it wasn't done by the US government this is terrorism Why would the situation be different if it turns out it was US government?

cup 9y ago
It would be an act of war.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  Acts of terrorism (other than top-down state terrorism) are usually acts of war whoever the perpetrator is.

dragonwriter 9y ago

> If it wasn't done by the US government this is terrorism pure and simple Whether it is terrorism is an orthogonal issue to whether it was done by the US Government.

c0nducktr 9y ago

> terrorism pure and simple, That word really has lost all meaning.

CalRobert 9y ago

I imagine you think spam is pretty terrifying too?

zeth___ 9y ago
Most of the US political class seems to. That's why we're having the whole Trump/Russia investigation after all.