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> SSRIs are not psychoactive, and better studied. The whole point of taking SSRI's is to affect the mind, so they are literally psychoactive. They are better

by fogzen 9y ago

> SSRIs are not psychoactive, and better studied. The whole point of taking SSRI's is to affect the mind, so they are literally psychoactive. They are better studied, but the risks you mentioned are associated with SSRI's as well as LSD. Do you have evidence/study that shows LSD is more dangerous than SSRIs? LSD not being studied as much doesn't mean it's more dangerous...

Fnoord 9y ago
> The whole point of taking SSRI's is to affect the mind, so they are literally psychoactive. Yes, they are; I meant psychedelic/hallucinogenic. > They are better studied, but the risks you mentioned are associated with SSRI's as well as LSD. Yes, but the possible side effects are well documented and users are informed and screened beforehand and there is professional guidance (by licensed professionals who studied for it) in contrast to recreational drugs use. You know better what you dabble into when you follow the regular scientific path than the alternative path which is full with shenanigans, amateurs, wannabe experts, hippies, and downright dangerous, sick human beings. > LSD not being studied as much doesn't mean it's more dangerous than any of the SSRIs. Ultimately, this is irrelevant. You look at the current scientific evidence when you decide which treatment you want to follow. Recreational usage of LSD to self-medicate is very low on that list: actually, it shouldn't even be on that list until its scientifically tested in clinical trials. The lack of that doesn't mean we should just suggest it to random strangers; we ought not to! > Do you have evidence/study that shows LSD is more dangerous than SSRIs? No, stop turning it around. The burden of proof lies at you. You claim LSD is as useful or more useful than SSRIs.
- fogzen 9y ago
  I'm not turning anything around. The claim I was responding to was that suggesting the use of LSD was more dangerous or more irresponsible than suggesting the use of SSRIs. I'll say it again: There's no evidence the use of LSD is more dangerous than SSRI's.

by fogzen 9y ago

Fnoord 9y ago

> The whole point of taking SSRI's is to affect the mind, so they are literally psychoactive. Yes, they are; I meant psychedelic/hallucinogenic. > They are better studied, but the risks you mentioned are associated with SSRI's as well as LSD. Yes, but the possible side effects are well documented and users are informed and screened beforehand and there is professional guidance (by licensed professionals who studied for it) in contrast to recreational drugs use. You know better what you dabble into when you follow the regular scientific path than the alternative path which is full with shenanigans, amateurs, wannabe experts, hippies, and downright dangerous, sick human beings. > LSD not being studied as much doesn't mean it's more dangerous than any of the SSRIs. Ultimately, this is irrelevant. You look at the current scientific evidence when you decide which treatment you want to follow. Recreational usage of LSD to self-medicate is very low on that list: actually, it shouldn't even be on that list until its scientifically tested in clinical trials. The lack of that doesn't mean we should just suggest it to random strangers; we ought not to! > Do you have evidence/study that shows LSD is more dangerous than SSRIs? No, stop turning it around. The burden of proof lies at you. You claim LSD is as useful or more useful than SSRIs.

fogzen 9y ago
I'm not turning anything around. The claim I was responding to was that suggesting the use of LSD was more dangerous or more irresponsible than suggesting the use of SSRIs. I'll say it again: There's no evidence the use of LSD is more dangerous than SSRI's.