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> Google didn't produce Windows Phone apps, which they're entitled to not do, but then Microsoft tried to make apps for Google's services[0] which Google also s

> Google didn't produce Windows Phone apps, which they're entitled to not do, but then Microsoft tried to make apps for Google's services[0] which Google also shut down Well, you know, that's what Microsoft has been doing throughout its history, and still does. It's not bad when those giants get a taste of their own medicine.

SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago
Office and IE have been available for the Mac for a very long time now, I'm not sure what you're talking about...
- my123 9y ago
  Office was available for the Mac before Office for Windows even existed.
  - __sr__ 9y ago
    And it was left to languish for a couple of decades before the move to cloud centric multi-platform workflow left them with no other choice. I am not a power user of MS Office, but the ones I know tell me that the macOS version still lacks features compared to Windows. And lastly, where is MS Access for macOS?
- tiuPapa 9y ago
  Are they available for Linux?
  - zeusk 9y ago
    No they're not because of multitude of reasons but they now use a open XML format that does way better interchange with openOffice etc. and don't actively try to shut down those products.
    - __sr__ 9y ago
      The keyword being now. It happened when they realised that they were going to be knocked off their pedestal if they didn’t open up - not when they were at the height of their power. By the way, is the XML Office file format really open — to the extant where one can create a third party client which works as well as the official one without reverse engineering?
      - zeusk 9y ago
        now since: Initial release 7 December 2006; 11 years ago
        __sr__ 9y ago
        The demise had already started back then with the advent of Web apps and crappiness and delay of Vista. In fact, MS started losing its power and clout way back in early 2000s, even if the effects were not very evident until much later. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost-the-api-war/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost...
        zeusk 9y ago
        Sure, also this is the year of Linux? isn't it?
        __sr__ 9y ago
        The year of the Linux on desktop/laptop is a fabulous myth - nothing more. Read the attached blog before posting sarcastic comments like this one. On the other hand, Linux is pretty much everywhere other than desktop/laptop, which are becoming increasingly less relevant. Perhaps demise is too strong a word, but decline from its status as the apex predator of the industry is more appropriate. MS is still powerful, but it is no longer the King.
        pjmlp 9y ago
- severino 9y ago
  I'm talking about all the Microsoft software available only for Windows, and all the closed services they won't let you use without the official client. I think it's the same story.
- evilduck 9y ago
  Office for Mac is generally regarded as inferior to the Windows versions and the Mac version of Internet Explorer was last released like 14 years ago. I’m not even sure it runs on Intel Macs.

SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago

Office and IE have been available for the Mac for a very long time now, I'm not sure what you're talking about...

my123 9y ago
Office was available for the Mac before Office for Windows even existed.
- __sr__ 9y ago
  And it was left to languish for a couple of decades before the move to cloud centric multi-platform workflow left them with no other choice. I am not a power user of MS Office, but the ones I know tell me that the macOS version still lacks features compared to Windows. And lastly, where is MS Access for macOS?
tiuPapa 9y ago
Are they available for Linux?
- zeusk 9y ago
  No they're not because of multitude of reasons but they now use a open XML format that does way better interchange with openOffice etc. and don't actively try to shut down those products.
  - __sr__ 9y ago
    The keyword being now. It happened when they realised that they were going to be knocked off their pedestal if they didn’t open up - not when they were at the height of their power. By the way, is the XML Office file format really open — to the extant where one can create a third party client which works as well as the official one without reverse engineering?
    - zeusk 9y ago
      now since: Initial release 7 December 2006; 11 years ago
      - __sr__ 9y ago
        The demise had already started back then with the advent of Web apps and crappiness and delay of Vista. In fact, MS started losing its power and clout way back in early 2000s, even if the effects were not very evident until much later. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost-the-api-war/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2004/06/13/how-microsoft-lost...
        zeusk 9y ago
        Sure, also this is the year of Linux? isn't it?
        __sr__ 9y ago
        The year of the Linux on desktop/laptop is a fabulous myth - nothing more. Read the attached blog before posting sarcastic comments like this one. On the other hand, Linux is pretty much everywhere other than desktop/laptop, which are becoming increasingly less relevant. Perhaps demise is too strong a word, but decline from its status as the apex predator of the industry is more appropriate. MS is still powerful, but it is no longer the King.
        pjmlp 9y ago
severino 9y ago
I'm talking about all the Microsoft software available only for Windows, and all the closed services they won't let you use without the official client. I think it's the same story.
evilduck 9y ago
Office for Mac is generally regarded as inferior to the Windows versions and the Mac version of Internet Explorer was last released like 14 years ago. I’m not even sure it runs on Intel Macs.