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Honestly, I don't need a computer more powerful than my Motorola Droid. If someone could make one of those that had the battery life of a feature phone, I'd tak

by sprout 16y ago

Honestly, I don't need a computer more powerful than my Motorola Droid. If someone could make one of those that had the battery life of a feature phone, I'd take my Moto Droid any day of the week. (Actually, I don't see why you think that tablets should have multi-day life expectancies. I'm almost always using them in areas where there are plugs. My phone on the other hand almost never leaves my pocket. )

rakkhi 16y ago
"Honestly, I don't need a computer more powerful than my Motorola Droid. " How can more performace ever be a bad thing, things you have not even imagined or been invented yet to do on a mobile because the performance is not there yet. E.g. things that I know: 3D video recording and photography, great performance augmented reality, instant search with social network and location data built it, HDR video recording. I don't even know what I don't know... And its not even multiday - I would love my iPhone to be double the performance and 8 hours non stop video play. That would be awesome, nothing more frustrating than being stuck on a train with a mobile that has run out of battery, only so long you can stare at the hot chicks :)
- sprout 16y ago
  A mobile is a tool. It accomplishes a set of tasks for me. I don't want to be bothered with constantly worrying about my power supply in search of hypothetical benefits. I want a music player / messenger / Internet browser that I can plug into an outlet at my leisure. Also, instant search with location / social data already works on my Motorola Droid. In fact, certain parts of it work worse on Froyo than they did on the previous release. (Example: I used to be able to use voice search to say "Navigate to John Smith" and if I had a contact named John Smith with address information, it opened up navigation and took me there. Hopelessly broken on Froyo, and there's nowhere to submit a bug report because voice search and maps are both closed-source.) But I guess mostly what I'm saying is that there are no hardware problems, it's all cloud data, cloud computing, and the main bottleneck is network, not CPU. Even so, the bottlenecks don't cause enough trouble that I'm willing to sacrifice battery to get rid of them.
  - rakkhi 16y ago
    the main issue with that for me at least is offline useage. I often use my phone on the London tube with no internet access so having things offline or cached from the cloud is great. Local processing is absolutly required. LTE and new wireless standards may eventually change this but currently you can't beat something that runs locally. So more powerfull hardware on phones is absolutly required
- _delirium 16y ago
  There's probably things in theory you can do with it, but in practice I really haven't found a need for more performance in the past 5 years or so. I have a low-powered, old laptop and a full-powered, newish desktop, and I really don't run into anything I want to do on the laptop but can't. Admittedly, I don't play much in the way of recent games, so that would be one possible use. There's scientific computing, but I run that all on remote servers or by spinning up VMs in the cloud these days. I just haven't run into much of anything else that needs the CPU cycles. In retrospect, I should've bought a lower-powered desktop machine!
  - rakkhi 16y ago
    Each to their own I suppose, I have a few laptops generally replace them every 2-3 years. Currently an Alienware M11X and a Acer 1215N. Even for "just" email, browsing, reading I really like the "instant" feel from the newer core 2 duo processors and an SSD. I also occisionally fire up a bit of Starcraft 2 so the M11x is great for that. I use an older computer at work and it is really painfull waiting for it to load apps and even Firefox - ultimately it is only a few secords but that is annonying to me. For my phone the iphone is brilliant but battery life is a real issue. I read on it all the time (walking, trains, tube, waiting in line). Occasional game and youtube video also. Extra battery would be great espeically when I'm on holiday or weekend break or just have played a few videos and haven't had a chance to charge it all day The performance is fine at the moment but I would love it to be faster - those apps to launch instantly, multitask instant, youtube vids play in HD with no lag and the ability to do more on it e.g. take HDR video, compress and edit movies I take on my camera, play full 3D games with great graphics e.g. upcoming Sword. You can keep your 5 year old machine, but I am really looking forward to the Dual core ARM processors - thats why I own share in ARM and Qualcomm :)
    - _delirium 16y ago
      Hmm, the SSD is a good point. I don't think my interactive desktop usage is very often CPU-bound, which is one reason I don't notice much difference between the older and newer machines I own. But an SSD might make some difference, because I'm guessing some stuff (esp. app startup) is I/O-bound. I do often take a software approach to speeding things up, though. For example, my solution to Firefox taking a few seconds to start up was to switch to Chrome. ;-) And thanks to the amazing JS compiler advances over the past few years, my old laptop runs JS much faster today than it did when it was new!
asdfghjkjnmhb 16y ago
""Honestly, I don't need a computer more powerful than my Motorola Droid. "" But the phone does. Originally the ARM was a tiny, 30,000gate, cpu core in the corner of the ASIC that did all the phone stuff. If the ARM gets powerful enough it can do all the protocol specific stuff and you no longer need an ASIC. So reduced parts count, quicker development, easier to support new phone standards etc.

by sprout 16y ago

rakkhi 16y ago

"Honestly, I don't need a computer more powerful than my Motorola Droid. " How can more performace ever be a bad thing, things you have not even imagined or been invented yet to do on a mobile because the performance is not there yet. E.g. things that I know: 3D video recording and photography, great performance augmented reality, instant search with social network and location data built it, HDR video recording. I don't even know what I don't know... And its not even multiday - I would love my iPhone to be double the performance and 8 hours non stop video play. That would be awesome, nothing more frustrating than being stuck on a train with a mobile that has run out of battery, only so long you can stare at the hot chicks :)

sprout 16y ago
A mobile is a tool. It accomplishes a set of tasks for me. I don't want to be bothered with constantly worrying about my power supply in search of hypothetical benefits. I want a music player / messenger / Internet browser that I can plug into an outlet at my leisure. Also, instant search with location / social data already works on my Motorola Droid. In fact, certain parts of it work worse on Froyo than they did on the previous release. (Example: I used to be able to use voice search to say "Navigate to John Smith" and if I had a contact named John Smith with address information, it opened up navigation and took me there. Hopelessly broken on Froyo, and there's nowhere to submit a bug report because voice search and maps are both closed-source.) But I guess mostly what I'm saying is that there are no hardware problems, it's all cloud data, cloud computing, and the main bottleneck is network, not CPU. Even so, the bottlenecks don't cause enough trouble that I'm willing to sacrifice battery to get rid of them.
- rakkhi 16y ago
  the main issue with that for me at least is offline useage. I often use my phone on the London tube with no internet access so having things offline or cached from the cloud is great. Local processing is absolutly required. LTE and new wireless standards may eventually change this but currently you can't beat something that runs locally. So more powerfull hardware on phones is absolutly required
_delirium 16y ago
There's probably things in theory you can do with it, but in practice I really haven't found a need for more performance in the past 5 years or so. I have a low-powered, old laptop and a full-powered, newish desktop, and I really don't run into anything I want to do on the laptop but can't. Admittedly, I don't play much in the way of recent games, so that would be one possible use. There's scientific computing, but I run that all on remote servers or by spinning up VMs in the cloud these days. I just haven't run into much of anything else that needs the CPU cycles. In retrospect, I should've bought a lower-powered desktop machine!
- rakkhi 16y ago
  Each to their own I suppose, I have a few laptops generally replace them every 2-3 years. Currently an Alienware M11X and a Acer 1215N. Even for "just" email, browsing, reading I really like the "instant" feel from the newer core 2 duo processors and an SSD. I also occisionally fire up a bit of Starcraft 2 so the M11x is great for that. I use an older computer at work and it is really painfull waiting for it to load apps and even Firefox - ultimately it is only a few secords but that is annonying to me. For my phone the iphone is brilliant but battery life is a real issue. I read on it all the time (walking, trains, tube, waiting in line). Occasional game and youtube video also. Extra battery would be great espeically when I'm on holiday or weekend break or just have played a few videos and haven't had a chance to charge it all day The performance is fine at the moment but I would love it to be faster - those apps to launch instantly, multitask instant, youtube vids play in HD with no lag and the ability to do more on it e.g. take HDR video, compress and edit movies I take on my camera, play full 3D games with great graphics e.g. upcoming Sword. You can keep your 5 year old machine, but I am really looking forward to the Dual core ARM processors - thats why I own share in ARM and Qualcomm :)
  - _delirium 16y ago
    Hmm, the SSD is a good point. I don't think my interactive desktop usage is very often CPU-bound, which is one reason I don't notice much difference between the older and newer machines I own. But an SSD might make some difference, because I'm guessing some stuff (esp. app startup) is I/O-bound. I do often take a software approach to speeding things up, though. For example, my solution to Firefox taking a few seconds to start up was to switch to Chrome. ;-) And thanks to the amazing JS compiler advances over the past few years, my old laptop runs JS much faster today than it did when it was new!

asdfghjkjnmhb 16y ago

""Honestly, I don't need a computer more powerful than my Motorola Droid. "" But the phone does. Originally the ARM was a tiny, 30,000gate, cpu core in the corner of the ASIC that did all the phone stuff. If the ARM gets powerful enough it can do all the protocol specific stuff and you no longer need an ASIC. So reduced parts count, quicker development, easier to support new phone standards etc.