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I went in expecting an article about how the most enthusiastic and visionary game designers will tend to enthusiastically state their hopes, dreams and visions

by m12k 9y ago

I went in expecting an article about how the most enthusiastic and visionary game designers will tend to enthusiastically state their hopes, dreams and visions about the unfinished game they are working on, but will ultimately end up being ridiculed or being called liars when the final game fails to live up to the lofty ideas that they expressed during development. The actual article was interesting too though.

teawrecks 9y ago
Well Molyneux is taken, I guess we could call it the Murray effect.
- LifeLiverTransp 9y ago
  To be honest, when Peters horses stampeded with him, the audience happily went along even with the most unreasonable idea. People like him where and are rare, and the games delivered under the name bullfrog where so legendary - (even though half of them he wasnt involved at all), its was allmost impossible to live up to that avalanch of a reputation that had developed around him. Its a sad thing that the people looking for something to hate- aka the web happend to him. I liked him visionary, and even if only half the vision survived, the games where always excellent.
  - shkkmo 9y ago
    The hate for Molyneux is not just due to him over promising. It is due to him continually lying to his supporters and taking their money to build and launch a F2P mobile game that still receives updates even though they haven't bothered to even post an update their steam community in 3 years. He is still misleadingly selling Godus under "Early Access" on Steam even though he clearly has no plans to continue development and there hasn't been an update in over 3 years.
  - Bromlife 9y ago
    Molyneux was/is such a massive bullshit artist, that he would even make promises in front of crowds that the game devs had never even heard before. He just let his imagination and mouth run wild.
    - LifeLiverTransp 9y ago
      Maybe the line between hoax and avantgard, never tryied before isnt as clear cut as many want it to be. If you venture into unchartered territory, trying things not done before- you are exploring a very branchy maze- and sometimes its only sheer luck keeping you from exploring a promising dead end. To a outsider, or somebody years later, looking down from the knowledgeable mountain of history- such simple decisions seem "strange" and wastefull. But down, in the trenches of today, they where the best move available. Kickstarter money was always play money of those investing, and once it has been used up- what should those developing eat? Love and air from the fans? He runs off with little sums, while at least delivering, while others venture off with full studio budgets and deliver next to nothing?
- Bromlife 9y ago
  Murray deserves more respect than Molyneux. Where Molyneux was off to the next shiny idea after underwhelming is fans once again, Murray is still working hard on getting NMS to where they promised it would be at launch. Atlas Rises patch brought a lot of much needed content and I'm really looking forward to their latest anounced update. Peter's problem was that he didn't just release the game without all the promised features, he wouldn't even hang around to fix the bugs.
ekianjo 9y ago
> but will ultimately end up being ridiculed or being called liars It's well deserved if thats the case. At least if it keeps happening over and over again for the same person.
_bxg1 9y ago
Same
anonytrary 9y ago
"Plant a seed and watch it grow." is perhaps the most memorable broken promise. I always thought Peter would have continued to do great things had he been born 10 years later. The man's imagination certainly outpaced technology. A tragedy, indeed.

by m12k 9y ago

teawrecks 9y ago

Well Molyneux is taken, I guess we could call it the Murray effect.

LifeLiverTransp 9y ago
To be honest, when Peters horses stampeded with him, the audience happily went along even with the most unreasonable idea. People like him where and are rare, and the games delivered under the name bullfrog where so legendary - (even though half of them he wasnt involved at all), its was allmost impossible to live up to that avalanch of a reputation that had developed around him. Its a sad thing that the people looking for something to hate- aka the web happend to him. I liked him visionary, and even if only half the vision survived, the games where always excellent.
- shkkmo 9y ago
  The hate for Molyneux is not just due to him over promising. It is due to him continually lying to his supporters and taking their money to build and launch a F2P mobile game that still receives updates even though they haven't bothered to even post an update their steam community in 3 years. He is still misleadingly selling Godus under "Early Access" on Steam even though he clearly has no plans to continue development and there hasn't been an update in over 3 years.
- Bromlife 9y ago
  Molyneux was/is such a massive bullshit artist, that he would even make promises in front of crowds that the game devs had never even heard before. He just let his imagination and mouth run wild.
  - LifeLiverTransp 9y ago
    Maybe the line between hoax and avantgard, never tryied before isnt as clear cut as many want it to be. If you venture into unchartered territory, trying things not done before- you are exploring a very branchy maze- and sometimes its only sheer luck keeping you from exploring a promising dead end. To a outsider, or somebody years later, looking down from the knowledgeable mountain of history- such simple decisions seem "strange" and wastefull. But down, in the trenches of today, they where the best move available. Kickstarter money was always play money of those investing, and once it has been used up- what should those developing eat? Love and air from the fans? He runs off with little sums, while at least delivering, while others venture off with full studio budgets and deliver next to nothing?
Bromlife 9y ago
Murray deserves more respect than Molyneux. Where Molyneux was off to the next shiny idea after underwhelming is fans once again, Murray is still working hard on getting NMS to where they promised it would be at launch. Atlas Rises patch brought a lot of much needed content and I'm really looking forward to their latest anounced update. Peter's problem was that he didn't just release the game without all the promised features, he wouldn't even hang around to fix the bugs.

ekianjo 9y ago

> but will ultimately end up being ridiculed or being called liars It's well deserved if thats the case. At least if it keeps happening over and over again for the same person.

_bxg1 9y ago

Same

anonytrary 9y ago

"Plant a seed and watch it grow." is perhaps the most memorable broken promise. I always thought Peter would have continued to do great things had he been born 10 years later. The man's imagination certainly outpaced technology. A tragedy, indeed.