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> The West has social credit scoring: money ??? as opposed to China which has no money?? China's credit system is paired with dictatorship, censorship, disapp

> The West has social credit scoring: money ??? as opposed to China which has no money?? China's credit system is paired with dictatorship, censorship, disappearance, and killing. Nowhere near the similarities with West Young Chinese activist missing after sharing plan to wear ‘Xitler’ t-shirt in public https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/11/03/young-chinese-activist-missing-after-sharing-plan-to-wear-xitler-t-shirt-on-cpc-anniversary-report/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/11/03/young-chinese-activist...

chrischen 8y ago
China is not a dictatorship. It is a single party representative government system that does not directly elect as many officials as the US does. However even in the US most officials are not directly elected (including the president) and people are still limited to two parties. Consider the last US election, Donald Trump lost the popular direct election, but was still elected by president by the Electoral college (a separate body chosen by the 2 dominant political parties for electing the president). Guantanamo bay is not run by the Chinese. While they generally do not imprison US citizens, they definitely do not give a shit about human rights for other people.
- bad_good_guy 8y ago
  China is a dictatorship. Don't delude yourself.
  - chrischen 8y ago
    It's a one-party regime, and that has its downsides, but it's not the same as a dictatorship. Just because it's not as Democractic as the US does not make it a dictatorship.
- fermienrico 8y ago
  Read and watch the video in this article please: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43188739 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43188739
- Anon1096 8y ago
  There are many strong criticisms of the electoral college. It being "a separate body chosen by the 2 dominant political parties for electing the president" is not one of them, because everyone chosen by the parties is almost guaranteed to vote as they are supposed to. The outcome is known and isn't pulled out of thin air, and has a direct relation to how people voted.
  - chrischen 8y ago
    The US election system is dominated by two parties. And the two parties do not have purely Democractic processes as they are not considered part of the government. For example there are super delegates which are fundamentally undemocractic. There are also "winner take all" caucuses which has a tendency to support and overrepresent the majority.
musage 8y ago
> His friend, named Gu Yi, who is a student studying abroad in the US, said he received a message from Kwon that said “something [bad] happened” on September 30. Gu has been unable to contact him since. An officer at the Yanji police department confirmed to US-backed Radio Free Asia that Kwon is currently in police custody. Officers at the same police department that answered the phone were unable to confirm Quan’s detention with HKFP. Hannah Arendt, in "The Origins of Totalitarianism": > The concentration camps, by making death itself anonymous (making it impossible to find out whether a prisoner is dead or alive), robbed death of its meaning as the end of a fulfilled life. In a sense they took away the individual’s own death, proving that henceforth nothing belonged to him and he belonged to no one. His death merely set a seal on the fact that he had never existed.
dang 8y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16780676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16780676 and marked it off-topic.

chrischen 8y ago

China is not a dictatorship. It is a single party representative government system that does not directly elect as many officials as the US does. However even in the US most officials are not directly elected (including the president) and people are still limited to two parties. Consider the last US election, Donald Trump lost the popular direct election, but was still elected by president by the Electoral college (a separate body chosen by the 2 dominant political parties for electing the president). Guantanamo bay is not run by the Chinese. While they generally do not imprison US citizens, they definitely do not give a shit about human rights for other people.

bad_good_guy 8y ago
China is a dictatorship. Don't delude yourself.
- chrischen 8y ago
  It's a one-party regime, and that has its downsides, but it's not the same as a dictatorship. Just because it's not as Democractic as the US does not make it a dictatorship.
fermienrico 8y ago
Read and watch the video in this article please: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43188739 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43188739
Anon1096 8y ago
There are many strong criticisms of the electoral college. It being "a separate body chosen by the 2 dominant political parties for electing the president" is not one of them, because everyone chosen by the parties is almost guaranteed to vote as they are supposed to. The outcome is known and isn't pulled out of thin air, and has a direct relation to how people voted.
- chrischen 8y ago
  The US election system is dominated by two parties. And the two parties do not have purely Democractic processes as they are not considered part of the government. For example there are super delegates which are fundamentally undemocractic. There are also "winner take all" caucuses which has a tendency to support and overrepresent the majority.

musage 8y ago

> His friend, named Gu Yi, who is a student studying abroad in the US, said he received a message from Kwon that said “something [bad] happened” on September 30. Gu has been unable to contact him since. An officer at the Yanji police department confirmed to US-backed Radio Free Asia that Kwon is currently in police custody. Officers at the same police department that answered the phone were unable to confirm Quan’s detention with HKFP. Hannah Arendt, in "The Origins of Totalitarianism": > The concentration camps, by making death itself anonymous (making it impossible to find out whether a prisoner is dead or alive), robbed death of its meaning as the end of a fulfilled life. In a sense they took away the individual’s own death, proving that henceforth nothing belonged to him and he belonged to no one. His death merely set a seal on the fact that he had never existed.

dang 8y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16780676 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16780676 and marked it off-topic.