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> They wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. I have literally never seen this.

meri_dian 9y ago
I see China envy online a lot, especially given our recent political disfunction as people look at the superficial stability of China and want that for their own societies.
- whatshisface 9y ago
  China is emphatically not stable. The PRC was started in 1949. The US civil war ended in 1865. Revolution is a living memory for some in China and that does a great deal to help the population think that suppression at all costs is reasonable. While the US was having its civil war, China was suffering through the tail end of [1]. Historically (in the modern era), China may best be seen as a very violent place. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan (Edit: I didn't notice the word superficial at first, it may have been inserted later as a correction.)
  - dnoeuirc4334nt 9y ago
    They said "superficial stability". The point is that it looks nice and stable if you don't look too closely.
chapium 9y ago
Same. Seems like trolling.
natch 9y ago
You should travel to China and see it for yourself. Americans are so incredibly naive. I’m not saying you’re American but you definitely should get out more.
- ItsMe000001 9y ago
  He is not talking about China but about people on HN who allegedly want this. I don't see how traveling to China helps, you need to travel to this website that you are already on to prove or disprove the claim :-)
  - TomMarius 9y ago
    Meeting the naive expats there is a very eye opening experience.
    - natch 9y ago
      Well yes, that too.
- chibg10 9y ago
  I have been to China and it did not allay my fears about a CCP-centric world one bit. Also I'm an American and I don't appreciate your pseudo-racist condescension.
  - natch 9y ago
    I definitely didn't mean it in the sense of allaying fears. I meant if anything it should heighten fears, for those who have more than a surface experience. Not sure where race is coming into it for you. American is not a race. Chinese is more a culture, than a race, if you look at the diversity of China outside of just Han. ??? Maybe we should just leave that one alone, it may have been a misunderstanding.
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  I have been to China three times, for a total of about a year spent there thank you very much. I come from an English spring country but have spent extensive time in various other countries where I have family. Thanks for being a total dick whilst knowing nothing about me. That being irrelevant though I suggest you re-read the post I was replying to. And then the honourable thing to do would be apologise to me.

I see China envy online a lot, especially given our recent political disfunction as people look at the superficial stability of China and want that for their own societies.

whatshisface 9y ago
China is emphatically not stable. The PRC was started in 1949. The US civil war ended in 1865. Revolution is a living memory for some in China and that does a great deal to help the population think that suppression at all costs is reasonable. While the US was having its civil war, China was suffering through the tail end of [1]. Historically (in the modern era), China may best be seen as a very violent place. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Xiuquan (Edit: I didn't notice the word superficial at first, it may have been inserted later as a correction.)
- dnoeuirc4334nt 9y ago
  They said "superficial stability". The point is that it looks nice and stable if you don't look too closely.

chapium 9y ago

Same. Seems like trolling.

natch 9y ago

You should travel to China and see it for yourself. Americans are so incredibly naive. I’m not saying you’re American but you definitely should get out more.

ItsMe000001 9y ago
He is not talking about China but about people on HN who allegedly want this. I don't see how traveling to China helps, you need to travel to this website that you are already on to prove or disprove the claim :-)
- TomMarius 9y ago
  Meeting the naive expats there is a very eye opening experience.
  - natch 9y ago
    Well yes, that too.
chibg10 9y ago
I have been to China and it did not allay my fears about a CCP-centric world one bit. Also I'm an American and I don't appreciate your pseudo-racist condescension.
- natch 9y ago
  I definitely didn't mean it in the sense of allaying fears. I meant if anything it should heighten fears, for those who have more than a surface experience. Not sure where race is coming into it for you. American is not a race. Chinese is more a culture, than a race, if you look at the diversity of China outside of just Han. ??? Maybe we should just leave that one alone, it may have been a misunderstanding.
jackvalentine 9y ago
I have been to China three times, for a total of about a year spent there thank you very much. I come from an English spring country but have spent extensive time in various other countries where I have family. Thanks for being a total dick whilst knowing nothing about me. That being irrelevant though I suggest you re-read the post I was replying to. And then the honourable thing to do would be apologise to me.