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Seeing how he actually has cars in production and he can not only launch but also land rockets those are definitely not vaporware. It remains to be seen whether

Seeing how he actually has cars in production and he can not only launch but also land rockets those are definitely not vaporware. It remains to be seen whether either is going to be a huge business but he's definitely launched some actual products.

metaobject 9y ago
I really don't understand the hate for Musk. Shit, a lot of these projects are really experiments that he's funding. They're really cool experiments, at that, and experiments aren't supposed to be successful all the time, anyway. It's like the people who bash NASA for having failures. This has never been done before!
- detaro 9y ago
  While Musks companies do impressive things, there also is a lot of polarizing stuff that seems overdone: overconfident marketing for the "Autopilot", bashing the car industry as being incompetent while failing to get their own production up, Musk bubbling on Twitter about "direct democracy on Mars" while fighting organization among his own employees, ... It's pushing the hype with often little basis, which is guaranteed to create dislike from people disagreeing. It's very different from bashing mistakes IMHO.
buvanshak 9y ago
> Seeing how he actually has cars in production You see, the the projected promise is not to have electric cars in production. It is to build cars with tech that is far advanced and game changing, to a point that owning an ICE vehicle does not make sense... > but also land rockets those are definitely not vaporware The promise is not that they will build rockets. The promise is mars. That is why people are cheering for them and is investing in them.. Then there is Hyperloop. Classic vaporware..You might be seeing why I think these are vaporware now... Thanks idiots of HN for flagging the comment. A fool and his money is soon parted. If there are too many fools in the world, it is only the preservation of that law that is dictating that entities like Musk should appear.

metaobject 9y ago

I really don't understand the hate for Musk. Shit, a lot of these projects are really experiments that he's funding. They're really cool experiments, at that, and experiments aren't supposed to be successful all the time, anyway. It's like the people who bash NASA for having failures. This has never been done before!

detaro 9y ago
While Musks companies do impressive things, there also is a lot of polarizing stuff that seems overdone: overconfident marketing for the "Autopilot", bashing the car industry as being incompetent while failing to get their own production up, Musk bubbling on Twitter about "direct democracy on Mars" while fighting organization among his own employees, ... It's pushing the hype with often little basis, which is guaranteed to create dislike from people disagreeing. It's very different from bashing mistakes IMHO.

buvanshak 9y ago

> Seeing how he actually has cars in production You see, the the projected promise is not to have electric cars in production. It is to build cars with tech that is far advanced and game changing, to a point that owning an ICE vehicle does not make sense... > but also land rockets those are definitely not vaporware The promise is not that they will build rockets. The promise is mars. That is why people are cheering for them and is investing in them.. Then there is Hyperloop. Classic vaporware..You might be seeing why I think these are vaporware now... Thanks idiots of HN for flagging the comment. A fool and his money is soon parted. If there are too many fools in the world, it is only the preservation of that law that is dictating that entities like Musk should appear.