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I really doubt that's the case if you use more than a few small apps which is the case for the vast majority of users.

by andromeduck 9y ago

nixpulvis 9y ago
Must I link a running process list of my Linux laptop vs my macOS laptop?
- davewritescode 9y ago
  How do you know the process list is accurate for certain? The point is, there’s potentially back doors in everything, including the C compiler that built your Linux kernel.
  - nixpulvis 9y ago
    We've all read reflections on trusting trust... still my point stands, it's hard to argue that Linux is not lighter than the mainstream OSes.
    - userbinator 9y ago
      Something like a default Ubuntu install (which might be somewhat "mainstream") actually has a surprising amount of stuff running in the background. Of course it's all open-source or otherwise completely documented, so it's still easier to figure out what's what than with Windows or macOS.
    - andromeduck 9y ago
      It can be lighter but what does that mean in practical terms if the cost of maintenance is monumental? I think with even just the barest bones practical computer with wifi + with email + browser + compiler and their dependencies is well beyond the scope of what one person is able to audit. You'd need a team of at least 20-30 individuals before that starts making sense.
      - michaelmrose 9y ago
        If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors? Further what if it happened we were unsatisfied with this we could all collectively hire more people to audit the software stacks we rely on in order of priority instead of expecting each person to hire dozens to vet the software they are presently running. Further if only even if we can't ever arrive at 100% surety we can get closer and closer to satisfaction.
        andromeduck 9y ago
        > If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors? You mean like what Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. already do?
- mmphosis 9y ago
  ps aux | wc Linux: 177 Mac OS X: 44 macOS?

I really doubt that's the case if you use more than a few small apps which is the case for the vast majority of users.

nixpulvis 9y ago

Must I link a running process list of my Linux laptop vs my macOS laptop?

davewritescode 9y ago
How do you know the process list is accurate for certain? The point is, there’s potentially back doors in everything, including the C compiler that built your Linux kernel.
- nixpulvis 9y ago
  We've all read reflections on trusting trust... still my point stands, it's hard to argue that Linux is not lighter than the mainstream OSes.
  - userbinator 9y ago
    Something like a default Ubuntu install (which might be somewhat "mainstream") actually has a surprising amount of stuff running in the background. Of course it's all open-source or otherwise completely documented, so it's still easier to figure out what's what than with Windows or macOS.
  - andromeduck 9y ago
    It can be lighter but what does that mean in practical terms if the cost of maintenance is monumental? I think with even just the barest bones practical computer with wifi + with email + browser + compiler and their dependencies is well beyond the scope of what one person is able to audit. You'd need a team of at least 20-30 individuals before that starts making sense.
    - michaelmrose 9y ago
      If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors? Further what if it happened we were unsatisfied with this we could all collectively hire more people to audit the software stacks we rely on in order of priority instead of expecting each person to hire dozens to vet the software they are presently running. Further if only even if we can't ever arrive at 100% surety we can get closer and closer to satisfaction.
      - andromeduck 9y ago
        > If only it was possible for massive armies of people to inspect source code for possible defects or backdoors? You mean like what Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. already do?
mmphosis 9y ago
ps aux | wc Linux: 177 Mac OS X: 44 macOS?