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If you delete those then the recipient can still see them (it just deletes them for you). Zuckerberg's messages (and the new "unsend" feature) delete the messag

If you delete those then the recipient can still see them (it just deletes them for you). Zuckerberg's messages (and the new "unsend" feature) delete the messages for everyone, which is different.

varenc 9y ago
Wow thanks for clarifying. That is absolutely deceptive. The UI never mentions that, but I found some support docs that do. I imagine the majority of people deleting messages aren't aware of this...
- jdtang13 9y ago
  I think it's a little funny but I wouldn't call it deceptive. If you delete your local copy of a text message, that doesn't remove it from the other person's phone. Same thing with messages on AIM and IRC. So un-sending seems to be the far less obvious feature.
  - kevindqc 9y ago
    Facebook owns the whole ecosystem, which makes it possible and expected for a deleted message to be deleted on all of Facebook. Your SMS, IRC, etc. messages are stored locally. Your Facebook messages get loaded from Facebook.
    - jdtang13 9y ago
      Yes, that's true. I suppose for me, the deception starts at the very beginning from Messenger's UI, which makes it look like any other texting app which uses local storage.
  - obmelvin 9y ago
    I'm not aware of a messaging service that lets you delete the recipients copy of a message, so I'm fairly surprised about people's reaction to your comments. Am I just not aware?
    - varenc 9y ago
      Slack/Facebook comments/posts are all things I use that let me delete previously sent messages. This is possible because they control it all. (Of course, I'm relying on the other users' clients coming online and respecting the delete instructions) and fair points about email... I had assumed this worked like other parts of Facebook, which doesn't seem unreasonable given they control the whole stack. (and they did shut down their old XMPP gateway awhile back)
    - duluiz1 9y ago
      WhatsApp lets you delete the recipients copy of a message
- traek 9y ago
  In what way is this deceptive? When you delete emails do you expect it to disappear from the other person's inbox as well?
  - efficacydivis 9y ago
    Email is decentralized so that's obviously impossible to do. Facebook is not.

If you delete those then the recipient can still see them (it just deletes them for you). Zuckerberg's messages (and the new "unsend" feature) delete the messages for everyone, which is different.

varenc 9y ago

Wow thanks for clarifying. That is absolutely deceptive. The UI never mentions that, but I found some support docs that do. I imagine the majority of people deleting messages aren't aware of this...

jdtang13 9y ago
I think it's a little funny but I wouldn't call it deceptive. If you delete your local copy of a text message, that doesn't remove it from the other person's phone. Same thing with messages on AIM and IRC. So un-sending seems to be the far less obvious feature.
- kevindqc 9y ago
  Facebook owns the whole ecosystem, which makes it possible and expected for a deleted message to be deleted on all of Facebook. Your SMS, IRC, etc. messages are stored locally. Your Facebook messages get loaded from Facebook.
  - jdtang13 9y ago
    Yes, that's true. I suppose for me, the deception starts at the very beginning from Messenger's UI, which makes it look like any other texting app which uses local storage.
- obmelvin 9y ago
  I'm not aware of a messaging service that lets you delete the recipients copy of a message, so I'm fairly surprised about people's reaction to your comments. Am I just not aware?
  - varenc 9y ago
    Slack/Facebook comments/posts are all things I use that let me delete previously sent messages. This is possible because they control it all. (Of course, I'm relying on the other users' clients coming online and respecting the delete instructions) and fair points about email... I had assumed this worked like other parts of Facebook, which doesn't seem unreasonable given they control the whole stack. (and they did shut down their old XMPP gateway awhile back)
  - duluiz1 9y ago
    WhatsApp lets you delete the recipients copy of a message
traek 9y ago
In what way is this deceptive? When you delete emails do you expect it to disappear from the other person's inbox as well?
- efficacydivis 9y ago
  Email is decentralized so that's obviously impossible to do. Facebook is not.