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This is bad. I get that religion has taboos, but religion also has an influence on morals. Yes, there are ways to be a good moral person without the Bible, but

This is bad. I get that religion has taboos, but religion also has an influence on morals. Yes, there are ways to be a good moral person without the Bible, but are we really giving people agency and the ability to choose if they are sensored? Human rights are human rights and as a human I should have the right to obtain a Bible if I so chose and live the consequences there of.

spankalee 9y ago
It's bad because of censorship, not because of any supposed good influence on morals by religion.
- hexo 9y ago
  there's already a ton of censorship deployed worldwide, one of those is ban on literature spreading hate, killing and humiliation of others, and frankly - most parts of bible aren't very different in this. bible "morals" are extremely outdated
gcb0 9y ago
I think you mean "there are ways to be a good moral person even with the Bible," ? remember that every religion teaches intolerance to other beliefs. if not directly by simply suggesting it is the only truth.
- DeusExMachina 9y ago
  Apart from the fact that your statement is simply not true, every value "discriminates" towards opposite values. In every hierarchy, when you define something as better, you automatically define something else as worse. That's how you make any decision in your life. The alternative is inaction. It has nothing to do with religion. It's an axiom of every value system.
- just_lurkin 9y ago
  atheism is unique in this regard because their intolerance stems from a higher Scientific Truth, so it is ok /s
- AnimalMuppet 9y ago
  Please don't put words in others' mouths. It's a disgustingly dishonest rhetorical trick, and it doesn't belong on HN.
- 09bjb 9y ago
  > every religion teaches intolerance to other beliefs. Not so. Big difference (and spectrum) between a Buddhist saying "I think my way is better, try it for yourself, or don't!" and a (insert fundamentalist sect here) saying "You deserve to die if you don't think like me." You don't even have to be religious to claim the latter, some political belief systems will also do just fine.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > remember that every religion teaches intolerance to other beliefs. Every religion teaches disagreement with other beliefs, not every one teaches intolerance of them.

spankalee 9y ago

It's bad because of censorship, not because of any supposed good influence on morals by religion.

hexo 9y ago
there's already a ton of censorship deployed worldwide, one of those is ban on literature spreading hate, killing and humiliation of others, and frankly - most parts of bible aren't very different in this. bible "morals" are extremely outdated

gcb0 9y ago

I think you mean "there are ways to be a good moral person even with the Bible," ? remember that every religion teaches intolerance to other beliefs. if not directly by simply suggesting it is the only truth.

DeusExMachina 9y ago
Apart from the fact that your statement is simply not true, every value "discriminates" towards opposite values. In every hierarchy, when you define something as better, you automatically define something else as worse. That's how you make any decision in your life. The alternative is inaction. It has nothing to do with religion. It's an axiom of every value system.
just_lurkin 9y ago
atheism is unique in this regard because their intolerance stems from a higher Scientific Truth, so it is ok /s
AnimalMuppet 9y ago
Please don't put words in others' mouths. It's a disgustingly dishonest rhetorical trick, and it doesn't belong on HN.
09bjb 9y ago
> every religion teaches intolerance to other beliefs. Not so. Big difference (and spectrum) between a Buddhist saying "I think my way is better, try it for yourself, or don't!" and a (insert fundamentalist sect here) saying "You deserve to die if you don't think like me." You don't even have to be religious to claim the latter, some political belief systems will also do just fine.
dragonwriter 9y ago
> remember that every religion teaches intolerance to other beliefs. Every religion teaches disagreement with other beliefs, not every one teaches intolerance of them.