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> I think autopilot is currently a death trap. I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. As long as the driver keeps paying attention and uses it as a driving

> I think autopilot is currently a death trap. I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. As long as the driver keeps paying attention and uses it as a driving aid, not a driver replacement, everything is fine. It's the moment that people start relying on it doing something that it wasn't built for, that the problems arise.

MadcapJake 9y ago
> I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. As long as the driver keeps paying attention and uses it as a driving aid, not a driver replacement, everything is fine. It's the moment that people start relying on it doing something that it wasn't built for, that the problems arise. I think this is a bit too optimistic. People will start relying on it to be an autopilot. I think most people see this as the desired result: a car that can drive itself. Do you really think anyone wants "a car that will drive itself while you are paying full attention to every detail"? Otherwise, what is a driver really gaining from this? They're still expected to pay just as much attention (if not more) and I'd bet it's even more boring than regular driving (no interaction from the driver means it's like the world's most boring VR movie) Humans are not machines, we love to find the lazy/easy way and we love to do things rather than stare at the road, eventually people will grow complacent (hopefully not before the tech is up-to-snuff).
- aerovistae 9y ago
  > Do you really think anyone wants "a car that will drive itself while you are paying full attention to every detail"? Otherwise, what is a driver really gaining from this? They're still expected to pay just as much attention (if not more) and I'd bet it's even more boring than regular driving (no interaction from the driver means it's like the world's most boring VR movie) EXACTLY. They're at even more risk for accident due to inattention because it's so hard to focus on doing nothing.
admax88q 9y ago
They shouldn't market it as "autopilot"
- donkeyd 9y ago
  Volvo does it too, but nobody seems to be complaining about Volvo.
  - jerrycruncher 9y ago
    Volvo's tech hasn't killed anyone yet.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    Volvo calls it Pilot Assist when you actually have the feature on your car
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noxToken 9y ago
This puts Telsa at odds with itself. The feature is called Autopilot after the namesake of flight systems where the pilot doesn't need to be constantly hands on. It is marketed as an autonomous driving system that allows the car to drive safely without human intervention. In the same breath, Tesla says that it isn't really an autopilot system, and that even though they market it as autonomous driving, it is still essential that you act as if you were driving. As you've stated, it's a tool for assisting drivers. So why do they market it as fire and forget?

MadcapJake 9y ago

> I think this is a bit of an exaggeration. As long as the driver keeps paying attention and uses it as a driving aid, not a driver replacement, everything is fine. It's the moment that people start relying on it doing something that it wasn't built for, that the problems arise. I think this is a bit too optimistic. People will start relying on it to be an autopilot. I think most people see this as the desired result: a car that can drive itself. Do you really think anyone wants "a car that will drive itself while you are paying full attention to every detail"? Otherwise, what is a driver really gaining from this? They're still expected to pay just as much attention (if not more) and I'd bet it's even more boring than regular driving (no interaction from the driver means it's like the world's most boring VR movie) Humans are not machines, we love to find the lazy/easy way and we love to do things rather than stare at the road, eventually people will grow complacent (hopefully not before the tech is up-to-snuff).

aerovistae 9y ago
> Do you really think anyone wants "a car that will drive itself while you are paying full attention to every detail"? Otherwise, what is a driver really gaining from this? They're still expected to pay just as much attention (if not more) and I'd bet it's even more boring than regular driving (no interaction from the driver means it's like the world's most boring VR movie) EXACTLY. They're at even more risk for accident due to inattention because it's so hard to focus on doing nothing.

admax88q 9y ago

They shouldn't market it as "autopilot"

donkeyd 9y ago
Volvo does it too, but nobody seems to be complaining about Volvo.
- jerrycruncher 9y ago
  Volvo's tech hasn't killed anyone yet.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  Volvo calls it Pilot Assist when you actually have the feature on your car

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noxToken 9y ago

This puts Telsa at odds with itself. The feature is called Autopilot after the namesake of flight systems where the pilot doesn't need to be constantly hands on. It is marketed as an autonomous driving system that allows the car to drive safely without human intervention. In the same breath, Tesla says that it isn't really an autopilot system, and that even though they market it as autonomous driving, it is still essential that you act as if you were driving. As you've stated, it's a tool for assisting drivers. So why do they market it as fire and forget?