> I don'k know why you assumed that bringing up china or the soviet union would changr that fact That's a dishonest interpretation of my comment, and in fact I

> I don'k know why you assumed that bringing up china or the soviet union would changr that fact That's a dishonest interpretation of my comment, and in fact I think you know exactly why I brought it up. OP gets to pick and choose which capitalisms are "true capitalism", but leftists are almost always denied the right to point out basic historic facts, such as maybe Stalin killed people because he was a paranoid dictator being blacklisted by all Western powers, rather than some non-sequitor about communism supernaturally compelling him to. Not an ad hominem, just genuinely curious, does he literally think "not all capitalisms are true capitalism" then also claim "all socialisms are true socialisms" then not see any irony?