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To play devil's advocate... that is 10% of your time in meetings that are defined by scrum to have specific goals that should be accomplished in each. It is pos
by throwaway2016a 9y ago
To play devil's advocate... that is 10% of your time in meetings that are defined by scrum to have specific goals that should be accomplished in each. It is possible (every case varies) that that 10% of time spent has a multiplying increase on product quality.
It is equally if not more probable it is a waste of time too though. Especially if the scrum master can't stay focused. I've been able to get 20 person scrum / standup meetings on schedule for 15 minutes every day from scheduled start to end. You could set your clock by it. But I've seen other teams take a half hour for less people. That is ridiculous.
As a fun anecdote, once I gave a project estimate and my client paid us to do detailed project planning because he didn't believe the estimate. We spent 3 days (with 5 people in the room) in requirements gathering, specing, and estimating stories. The end result... 5% more than my "wild guess" that I gave the client originally (that they already thought was too high) only now the client had to also pay for the additional 120 hours we spent in planning.
They asked incredulous how my "wild guess" could have been so close and my only answer was... experience.
But in the absence of experience those meetings could have provided a valuable service.
- thesz 9y agoThe time it takes to return to focused/productive state is roughly proportional to interruption time. So this guy above spent 10% of time on meetings and another 10% of his time on the exists and returns to productive state.
- OnlyRepliesToBS 9y agoThe last sentence is nothing but hope. But the company was definitely billed for consultancy. This pattern of snake oil keeps repeating, all to sell you the ability to force developers to follow Order by PM. This goalpost moving is evil.
- knightofmars 9y ago> The end result... 5% more than my "wild guess" How long did the project actually take?
- throwaway2016a 9y agoWe missed target but it was because the client changed a major requirement half way through after they saw it working the way they originally requested. I believe that if that didn't happen we would have hit target. Another argument against up-front estimating and fixed cost projects. It doesn't take into consideration things like that. But to that point, really target + what it took to do the estimation. So an extra week + the money..