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I've found it's a common recruiter tactic to try and wring some sort of concession for you based on your address. In just tell them no. They aren't competing wi

I've found it's a common recruiter tactic to try and wring some sort of concession for you based on your address. In just tell them no. They aren't competing with the gas station down the street from my house they are competing with the Twitter office down the street from theirs. It's possible my career has taken a hit due to being remote for the last few years but I get paid around $400k and I live in a nice little COL place. It's remotely possible I could rate 2x that if I was in the valley, but it's by no means guaranteed. I could also make the same or less.

jjeaff 9y ago
At $400k, you would likely be one of, if not the highest paid remote developer in existence. You must have a very esoteric skill set. And making twice that in the valley would be pretty much unheard of as well unless you are in a big management position or someone with a lot of history, seniority, and/or specific knowledge that is deemed critical to the company and undesirable that you might be hired by a competitor.
- mentat 9y ago
  It's about differentiating and showing business value. It's not that hard to generate 10x that value for a business if you know how to apply and scale your knowledge. I am absolutely sure that this is not top of market but people aren't calling themselves "remote developer" to get it.
  - jjeaff 9y ago
    You don't think $400k is top of market for a remote developer? It's not about showing business value if someone else can show that same value for less. I find it hard to believe there are many developer skill sets that couldn't be retained for less than $400k. (or 4 x $100k remote devs for that matter) There are tons of employees that generate far more than 10x their salary for the business. But salaries aren't set based on your "value". They are based on market rates.
mrhappyunhappy 9y ago
Holy shit. What do you do exactly?
amorphid 9y ago
Don't put too much faith in claims like this made by an anonymous account. Most SF-based software engineers don't make anywhere close to this. And we don't have any details about the breakdown between salary/hourly rate, stock, etc. And we don't have any proof at all really. I wanna believe, but I'm skeptical & I'll believe it when I see it. Would certainly love details!
- jjeaff 9y ago
  Ya, for a remote worker, I don't believe it. If it is true, there is more to the story. They would have to be working on something extremely esoteric and most likely, either have some kind of ownership in the company or just a sweetheart deal from management. The rules of economics apply. And if you are remote, you are competing with an enormous pool of labor and there are very few skills that you have to pay $400k to retain.

jjeaff 9y ago

At $400k, you would likely be one of, if not the highest paid remote developer in existence. You must have a very esoteric skill set. And making twice that in the valley would be pretty much unheard of as well unless you are in a big management position or someone with a lot of history, seniority, and/or specific knowledge that is deemed critical to the company and undesirable that you might be hired by a competitor.

mentat 9y ago
It's about differentiating and showing business value. It's not that hard to generate 10x that value for a business if you know how to apply and scale your knowledge. I am absolutely sure that this is not top of market but people aren't calling themselves "remote developer" to get it.
- jjeaff 9y ago
  You don't think $400k is top of market for a remote developer? It's not about showing business value if someone else can show that same value for less. I find it hard to believe there are many developer skill sets that couldn't be retained for less than $400k. (or 4 x $100k remote devs for that matter) There are tons of employees that generate far more than 10x their salary for the business. But salaries aren't set based on your "value". They are based on market rates.

mrhappyunhappy 9y ago

Holy shit. What do you do exactly?

amorphid 9y ago

Don't put too much faith in claims like this made by an anonymous account. Most SF-based software engineers don't make anywhere close to this. And we don't have any details about the breakdown between salary/hourly rate, stock, etc. And we don't have any proof at all really. I wanna believe, but I'm skeptical & I'll believe it when I see it. Would certainly love details!

jjeaff 9y ago
Ya, for a remote worker, I don't believe it. If it is true, there is more to the story. They would have to be working on something extremely esoteric and most likely, either have some kind of ownership in the company or just a sweetheart deal from management. The rules of economics apply. And if you are remote, you are competing with an enormous pool of labor and there are very few skills that you have to pay $400k to retain.