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Awesome, the worlds biggest honeypot? There is literally a finite amount of bandwidth in the existance, let Cloudflare have as much cruft as it wants.

walrus01 9y ago
I have no idea where you get the idea there is a finite amount of bandwidth available. It is not coal or molybdenum. ISPs are continually being expanded.
- cjg 9y ago
  Just because it is expanding, doesn't mean it isn't finite. The current bandwidth is finite. The future bandwidth is finite. Even if we use all the resources available to us, expanding at the speed of light to capture those resources, it's still finite.
  - walrus01 9y ago
    From a pure physics perspective, yes. But do take the time to familiarize yourself with the many THz of bandwidth that is available in one singlemode strand, and how many coherent modulated, 400GbE links can fit in a typical dwdm bandplan. The internet is continually expanding at OSI layer 1. It is a construction project. The bandwidth is growing faster than our ability to fill it.
  - pyvpx 9y ago
    IPv6 address space is also finite. but a handful of /64s is a paltry slice of it all.
- RobertRoberts 9y ago
  Well my comment got completely misunderstood. There are only so many criminals in the world, period. They only have so much bandwidth, either through stealing it or buying it. Also, I am happy Cloudflare is doing this, they are, at the very least, taking resources away from the criminals that could be attacking others and doing real harm.
YouKnowBetter 9y ago
Ignoring the Finite, but years ago, I was introduced to a company that basically did not use a whole routed and public /8 except for... honeypot research. Was a blast to see some of it and the warstories about how they where able to do some early warnings of nasties that where about to wreak havoc. Gave them a good insentive to actually design a pretty good toolingset, that never made it past "On Demand Innovation Services" which helped me to clean out a network with a zoo of malware strains. Still would implement it in the different networks I frequent, if it was available.
- RobertRoberts 9y ago
  It seems you grasped my poorly worded comment. I think Cloudflare knows what they are doing, and I am happy they are taking a lot of the focus towards themselves, this good for everyone. And I hope they learn alot about dealing with nefarious traffic.

walrus01 9y ago

I have no idea where you get the idea there is a finite amount of bandwidth available. It is not coal or molybdenum. ISPs are continually being expanded.

cjg 9y ago
Just because it is expanding, doesn't mean it isn't finite. The current bandwidth is finite. The future bandwidth is finite. Even if we use all the resources available to us, expanding at the speed of light to capture those resources, it's still finite.
- walrus01 9y ago
  From a pure physics perspective, yes. But do take the time to familiarize yourself with the many THz of bandwidth that is available in one singlemode strand, and how many coherent modulated, 400GbE links can fit in a typical dwdm bandplan. The internet is continually expanding at OSI layer 1. It is a construction project. The bandwidth is growing faster than our ability to fill it.
- pyvpx 9y ago
  IPv6 address space is also finite. but a handful of /64s is a paltry slice of it all.
RobertRoberts 9y ago
Well my comment got completely misunderstood. There are only so many criminals in the world, period. They only have so much bandwidth, either through stealing it or buying it. Also, I am happy Cloudflare is doing this, they are, at the very least, taking resources away from the criminals that could be attacking others and doing real harm.

YouKnowBetter 9y ago

Ignoring the Finite, but years ago, I was introduced to a company that basically did not use a whole routed and public /8 except for... honeypot research. Was a blast to see some of it and the warstories about how they where able to do some early warnings of nasties that where about to wreak havoc. Gave them a good insentive to actually design a pretty good toolingset, that never made it past "On Demand Innovation Services" which helped me to clean out a network with a zoo of malware strains. Still would implement it in the different networks I frequent, if it was available.

RobertRoberts 9y ago
It seems you grasped my poorly worded comment. I think Cloudflare knows what they are doing, and I am happy they are taking a lot of the focus towards themselves, this good for everyone. And I hope they learn alot about dealing with nefarious traffic.