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I suppose it hinges on how we define vaporware, but it’s consistently been the case that the lower priced options arrive later. Source: sub-$70k model S buyer

I suppose it hinges on how we define vaporware, but it’s consistently been the case that the lower priced options arrive later. Source: sub-$70k model S buyer who had to wait longer than preferred for that to be available.

carlivar 9y ago
> it’s consistently been the case that the lower priced options arrive later. No it hasn't. I would like to see where, in the first year of accepting Model 3 deposits, Tesla or Musk stated this.
- omgwtfbyobbq 9y ago
  Costlier versions of the Roadster, Model S, and Model X were available before the base versions were. If Tesla had done the opposite with the Model 3, that would have been the exception.
  - carlivar 9y ago
    The difference is the deposits Tesla accepted for the Model 3. Likely many deposits were placed based on the frequently-cited $35k price. I do not think deposits were taken for the models you mentioned.
    - greglindahl 9y ago
      You're wrong about all of these: Tesla was clear that the more expensive Model 3's would ship first, and S and X both shipped the most expensive ones first.
      - carlivar 9y ago
        Could you cite a source on that, please? The only articles I can find talking about it start in Summer 2017.
    - jungturk 9y ago
      Model X deposits ranged from $5k for the base model to $40k for the Signature model. Those deposits sat for up to 3 years for early reservations. The upcoming Roadster requires $50k and $250k deposits. The upcoming Semi requires a $20k deposit. The original Roadster also required a deposit. I'm unsure of the original Model S. Tesla's current estimate for base Model 3's is "late 2018" for early reservation holders. Take that with a grain of salt given how reliably they announce unreliable release dates.
jfoster 9y ago
I guess the way to resolve this is by asking, when does the $35k Model 3 become available? Once the answer is known it's not vaporware, but until then Model 3 isn't quite finished, as that's the one that many folk will be waiting for.
- greglindahl 9y ago
  The answer, for your queue position, is: https://3.tesla.com/model3/delivery-estimate https://3.tesla.com/model3/delivery-estimate
  - jungturk 9y ago
    Early reservation holders will see "Late 2018".

carlivar 9y ago

> it’s consistently been the case that the lower priced options arrive later. No it hasn't. I would like to see where, in the first year of accepting Model 3 deposits, Tesla or Musk stated this.

omgwtfbyobbq 9y ago
Costlier versions of the Roadster, Model S, and Model X were available before the base versions were. If Tesla had done the opposite with the Model 3, that would have been the exception.
- carlivar 9y ago
  The difference is the deposits Tesla accepted for the Model 3. Likely many deposits were placed based on the frequently-cited $35k price. I do not think deposits were taken for the models you mentioned.
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    You're wrong about all of these: Tesla was clear that the more expensive Model 3's would ship first, and S and X both shipped the most expensive ones first.
    - carlivar 9y ago
      Could you cite a source on that, please? The only articles I can find talking about it start in Summer 2017.
  - jungturk 9y ago
    Model X deposits ranged from $5k for the base model to $40k for the Signature model. Those deposits sat for up to 3 years for early reservations. The upcoming Roadster requires $50k and $250k deposits. The upcoming Semi requires a $20k deposit. The original Roadster also required a deposit. I'm unsure of the original Model S. Tesla's current estimate for base Model 3's is "late 2018" for early reservation holders. Take that with a grain of salt given how reliably they announce unreliable release dates.

jfoster 9y ago

I guess the way to resolve this is by asking, when does the $35k Model 3 become available? Once the answer is known it's not vaporware, but until then Model 3 isn't quite finished, as that's the one that many folk will be waiting for.

greglindahl 9y ago
The answer, for your queue position, is: https://3.tesla.com/model3/delivery-estimate https://3.tesla.com/model3/delivery-estimate
- jungturk 9y ago
  Early reservation holders will see "Late 2018".