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This is sort of technically true. Modified statement, based on extensive person experience: ~80+% had such an offer in hand, and the remaining 20% either: a) d

This is sort of technically true. Modified statement, based on extensive person experience: ~80+% had such an offer in hand, and the remaining 20% either: a) didn't bother applying but would've been shoe-ins, or else b) knew very early (freshman year) they were research-bound and optimized for a non-industry objective function (but could've skated into an industry job of their choice given a shift in undergraduate career focus). E.g., couldn't pass a coding interview and no industry internships but have one or more top-tier publication in a hot subfield. But (b) is kind of stupid to think about. It's like saying a successful lawyer would not make captain in the military. This may or may not be the case, but either way, who cares?

olympus 8y ago
Lawyers can commission directly as captains in the USAF (and probably other branches) as long as they are not too old and can pass the fitness test. I think they also have to have passed a bar exam in one state, but it doesn't matter which one. They can get up to $65k of student loans repaid and don't even have to go through the same basic training as everyone else. So (b) is slightly less trivial than saying a successful lawyer would not make captain in the military because most lawyers are one conversation, a few signatures, and one oath away from being a captain. So don't delay lawyers, join today!
- throwawayjava 8y ago
  Yes, I know, that was my point. > ...So (b) is slightly less trivial I'd argue not. In both cases, a fully capable and prepared person has to jump through a couple of relatively trivial hoops. And when those hoops aren't possible to jump through it's a weird case. We can split that hair, but it's silly.
- fapjacks 8y ago
  Did you actually do any recruiting? Or are you like me and just sort of started inadvertently talking this way after a certain number of years?
  - olympus 8y ago
    No recruiting, I started off by wanting to point out that military lawyers don't "make" captain, they are given that rank to start. Then I realized it sounded like a little like a recruitment talk so I decided to go all in.
telchar 8y ago
You chose a funny example. A lawyer can make captain in the military just by signing on the dotted line, same with a doctor.

olympus 8y ago

Lawyers can commission directly as captains in the USAF (and probably other branches) as long as they are not too old and can pass the fitness test. I think they also have to have passed a bar exam in one state, but it doesn't matter which one. They can get up to $65k of student loans repaid and don't even have to go through the same basic training as everyone else. So (b) is slightly less trivial than saying a successful lawyer would not make captain in the military because most lawyers are one conversation, a few signatures, and one oath away from being a captain. So don't delay lawyers, join today!

throwawayjava 8y ago
Yes, I know, that was my point. > ...So (b) is slightly less trivial I'd argue not. In both cases, a fully capable and prepared person has to jump through a couple of relatively trivial hoops. And when those hoops aren't possible to jump through it's a weird case. We can split that hair, but it's silly.
fapjacks 8y ago
Did you actually do any recruiting? Or are you like me and just sort of started inadvertently talking this way after a certain number of years?
- olympus 8y ago
  No recruiting, I started off by wanting to point out that military lawyers don't "make" captain, they are given that rank to start. Then I realized it sounded like a little like a recruitment talk so I decided to go all in.

telchar 8y ago

You chose a funny example. A lawyer can make captain in the military just by signing on the dotted line, same with a doctor.