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An account created 40 minutes ago can post something that appears on the front page?

by pcunite 9y ago

dang 9y ago
Why not? What matters is article quality.
- pcunite 9y ago
  Thank you for a good point. Would you please look into who is down-voting the heck out of me? I've been here for years and enjoy the good times. What is making this place so touchy?
  - kelnos 9y ago
    Meta-discussion in articles is generally discouraged and considered off-topic. Downvoting is pretty common of comments that question why an article is on the site or on the front page. If you don't agree that an article should be here, there's a "flag" link for that. No need for discussion; all that does is detract from the people who do think the article belongs here and want to have an interesting discussion about the article itself, and view comments such as yours as noise. None of this has anything to do with people being "touchy"[0]; we just want to keep comments that further discussion of the article at the top, and off-topic meta discussion out of the way. [0] I really dislike characterization of most moderation actions with such emotionally-charged language. The vast majority of my downvotes involve little to no emotion at all.
  - jasonlotito 9y ago
    There are a number of individuals who will downvote meta comments like this. I, for example, almost always blindly downvote any comment complaining about down votes. The reason is usually fairly simple: it's usually not a worthwhile discussion and off-topic, and I want to strongly discourage that sort of behavior. If you don't think something should be on HN, flag it and leave it at that.
nothrabannosir 9y ago
Fot a more zen perspective, consider the upside down: It’s not the poster that got it to the front page, but the people who upvoted it. If those were all fresh accounts, it would have been detected as a voting ring.
- pcunite 9y ago
  Interesting. I guess HN looks at that. It could still be a voting ring from established accounts. Sleeper accounts in fact, some created years ago. Another serious concern is we have down-voting going on that does not seem to be moderated. I have 4 for simply asking this question! It requires effort on my part to game the vote system to counter that effect, like saying something funny in one of the casual "techy" threads. HN is becoming work, and not so much fun anymore. Mob voting mentality is starting to take over ever since Trump's election. Did all the CTR (correct the record) drones come here to where we can't ask a question without punishment? Notes: Use the down-vote button on this post so that dang can find out who you are.
  - hueving 9y ago
    >I have 4 for simply asking this question! That's because it was an awful question implying a voting ring or some other collusion. If you are truly concerned about it, message the mods or flag the post. Don't pollute the conversation with voting conspiracies. >Notes: Use the down-vote button on this post so that dang can find out who you are. Don't tempt people to downvote, don't whine about downvotes. Those are both horrifically boring conversation topics so people downvote those comments.

An account created 40 minutes ago can post something that appears on the front page?

dang 9y ago

Why not? What matters is article quality.

pcunite 9y ago
Thank you for a good point. Would you please look into who is down-voting the heck out of me? I've been here for years and enjoy the good times. What is making this place so touchy?
- kelnos 9y ago
  Meta-discussion in articles is generally discouraged and considered off-topic. Downvoting is pretty common of comments that question why an article is on the site or on the front page. If you don't agree that an article should be here, there's a "flag" link for that. No need for discussion; all that does is detract from the people who do think the article belongs here and want to have an interesting discussion about the article itself, and view comments such as yours as noise. None of this has anything to do with people being "touchy"[0]; we just want to keep comments that further discussion of the article at the top, and off-topic meta discussion out of the way. [0] I really dislike characterization of most moderation actions with such emotionally-charged language. The vast majority of my downvotes involve little to no emotion at all.
- jasonlotito 9y ago
  There are a number of individuals who will downvote meta comments like this. I, for example, almost always blindly downvote any comment complaining about down votes. The reason is usually fairly simple: it's usually not a worthwhile discussion and off-topic, and I want to strongly discourage that sort of behavior. If you don't think something should be on HN, flag it and leave it at that.

nothrabannosir 9y ago

Fot a more zen perspective, consider the upside down: It’s not the poster that got it to the front page, but the people who upvoted it. If those were all fresh accounts, it would have been detected as a voting ring.

pcunite 9y ago
Interesting. I guess HN looks at that. It could still be a voting ring from established accounts. Sleeper accounts in fact, some created years ago. Another serious concern is we have down-voting going on that does not seem to be moderated. I have 4 for simply asking this question! It requires effort on my part to game the vote system to counter that effect, like saying something funny in one of the casual "techy" threads. HN is becoming work, and not so much fun anymore. Mob voting mentality is starting to take over ever since Trump's election. Did all the CTR (correct the record) drones come here to where we can't ask a question without punishment? Notes: Use the down-vote button on this post so that dang can find out who you are.
- hueving 9y ago
  >I have 4 for simply asking this question! That's because it was an awful question implying a voting ring or some other collusion. If you are truly concerned about it, message the mods or flag the post. Don't pollute the conversation with voting conspiracies. >Notes: Use the down-vote button on this post so that dang can find out who you are. Don't tempt people to downvote, don't whine about downvotes. Those are both horrifically boring conversation topics so people downvote those comments.