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Yes, this why federated systems (Mastodon, Matrix), etc. will just repeat history like with email centralizing into gmail. However, IPFS, Scuttlebutt, GUN (ful

Yes, this why federated systems (Mastodon, Matrix), etc. will just repeat history like with email centralizing into gmail. However, IPFS, Scuttlebutt, GUN (full disclosure: mine -> https://github.com/amark/gun https://github.com/amark/gun ), Beaker, etc. don't have this problem. Most of these, though, are tools for building decentralized apps, not necessarily the apps themselves - so there is plenty of love that we all need to have for enticing designers to build easy and beautiful apps. ZeroNet seemed pretty easy though and well designed, so I'm not sure about the author's grievances against that one. Although it is more of an app (or app store) than a library/tool.

molus 9y ago
> ZeroNet seemed pretty easy though and well designed, so I'm not sure about the author's grievances against that one. I like ZeroNet quite a bit myself. I found it really interesting because it applied p2p without the trendy keyword "blockchain" next to it. Also, I don't have much grievances against any decentralization tech itself. The fact that they exist, they are Open Source and bright minds are working on them full/part-time, means we are all better off for having such technology.
zzzcpan 9y ago
Gmail is a big e-mail provider, but e-mail is still not centralized after half a century.
pspeter3 9y ago
Have you seen people setting up GUN instances?
- marknadal 9y ago
  Yupe! It is super easy (like, 1 click deploy buttons) and lots of people in the community run one. Most people use them for their own project though, not necessarily as a collective network. Several people have said we should switch it to automatically connect to other peers, so that we can create a decentralized network, which I think is a good idea to try. I just originally didn't want to put random outbound network calls in the code because that seemed malware/"call home"/suspicious. :P

molus 9y ago

> ZeroNet seemed pretty easy though and well designed, so I'm not sure about the author's grievances against that one. I like ZeroNet quite a bit myself. I found it really interesting because it applied p2p without the trendy keyword "blockchain" next to it. Also, I don't have much grievances against any decentralization tech itself. The fact that they exist, they are Open Source and bright minds are working on them full/part-time, means we are all better off for having such technology.

zzzcpan 9y ago

Gmail is a big e-mail provider, but e-mail is still not centralized after half a century.

pspeter3 9y ago

Have you seen people setting up GUN instances?

marknadal 9y ago
Yupe! It is super easy (like, 1 click deploy buttons) and lots of people in the community run one. Most people use them for their own project though, not necessarily as a collective network. Several people have said we should switch it to automatically connect to other peers, so that we can create a decentralized network, which I think is a good idea to try. I just originally didn't want to put random outbound network calls in the code because that seemed malware/"call home"/suspicious. :P