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Drunk drivers, recklessly fast drivers, redlight runners, stop sign blowers, high speed tailgaters... those are the demographic you have to compare the Tesla dr

Drunk drivers, recklessly fast drivers, redlight runners, stop sign blowers, high speed tailgaters... those are the demographic you have to compare the Tesla drivers to. Do people who buy Teslas engage in those kinds of dangerous activities?

YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago
There was a recent news item about a Tesla driver who fell asleep at the wheel and who was allegedly over the legal limit: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tesla+driver+drunk+asleep&t=ffsb&atb=v100-7&ia=videos https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tesla+driver+drunk+asleep&t=ffsb&a...
foolfoolz 9y ago
yes
detaro 9y ago
Yes, that sounds like a pretty good profile of people buying expensive high-performance cars.
ajross 9y ago
> Drunk drivers, recklessly fast drivers, redlight runners, stop sign blowers, high speed tailgaters. Wait, so you are willing to share the road with all those nutjobs, yet you're "staying the hell away from" Teslas you see which you claim are NOT being driven by these people? I think you need to reevaluate your argument. Badly. That even leaves aside the clear point that a Tesla on autopilot is significantly less likely to make any of those mistakes...
- ksk 9y ago
  >That even leaves aside the clear point that a Tesla on autopilot is significantly less likely to make any of those mistakes... What are you basing this on? Specifically how is it 'clear' and what data has shown this to be 'significant' ?
  - matte_black 9y ago
    Elon Musk probably
- matte_black 9y ago
  I stay away from all these people. I have no illusions that a self driving Tesla is significantly safer.
  - mcny 9y ago
    I don't think a self-driving car is safe today but the fundamentals of machine learning seem sound so arguably they will become safer with every mile they drive (and every accident they cause). My only concern is that there should be somewhat responsible people working on it (this means for example no uber, Facebook, linked in, or ford self-driving car on public roads). But thinking about bit more, what if competitors shared data? Would that get us "there" (level 4+) at all? Would it be a distraction?

YeGoblynQueenne 9y ago

There was a recent news item about a Tesla driver who fell asleep at the wheel and who was allegedly over the legal limit: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tesla+driver+drunk+asleep&t=ffsb&atb=v100-7&ia=videos https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tesla+driver+drunk+asleep&t=ffsb&a...

foolfoolz 9y ago

yes

detaro 9y ago

Yes, that sounds like a pretty good profile of people buying expensive high-performance cars.

ajross 9y ago

> Drunk drivers, recklessly fast drivers, redlight runners, stop sign blowers, high speed tailgaters. Wait, so you are willing to share the road with all those nutjobs, yet you're "staying the hell away from" Teslas you see which you claim are NOT being driven by these people? I think you need to reevaluate your argument. Badly. That even leaves aside the clear point that a Tesla on autopilot is significantly less likely to make any of those mistakes...

ksk 9y ago
>That even leaves aside the clear point that a Tesla on autopilot is significantly less likely to make any of those mistakes... What are you basing this on? Specifically how is it 'clear' and what data has shown this to be 'significant' ?
- matte_black 9y ago
  Elon Musk probably
matte_black 9y ago
I stay away from all these people. I have no illusions that a self driving Tesla is significantly safer.
- mcny 9y ago
  I don't think a self-driving car is safe today but the fundamentals of machine learning seem sound so arguably they will become safer with every mile they drive (and every accident they cause). My only concern is that there should be somewhat responsible people working on it (this means for example no uber, Facebook, linked in, or ford self-driving car on public roads). But thinking about bit more, what if competitors shared data? Would that get us "there" (level 4+) at all? Would it be a distraction?