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You are not forced to work at Google. Go work somewhere else.

jstanley 9y ago
Corollary to that is that they're not forced to work at Google. Google should work on ethical things if they want to keep their employees.
- alslsls 9y ago
  There are plenty of future employees ready to fill the empty spots.
  - jstanley 9y ago
    Yes, and there are plenty of future employers ready to take the ex-Googlers.
DyslexicAtheist 9y ago
not sure why you're getting downvoted for this. Those working for Google (or any large Silicon Valley firm) are usually among the top in their league and should be able to decide where they want to go based on their ideals/values, not because they have no other choice. Compared to the gazillions of engineers out there who are part of a 2nd or even 3rd party outsourcing chain (on crap salary and without rights in the company), Google employees are there because they want to. If the general opinion (in light of what we learned) now shifts towards a believe these companies are evil (which IMO they are) then I hardly feel sorry for the individual engineers. Googlers, Facebookers, Palantir guys should adapt and adjust or read "Who moved my cheese". Time for making these changes are now IMHO.
- iraphael 9y ago
  They are also smart enough to know that their opinions matter within the company, and they can affect positive change. This open letter is one mechanism for doing that.
  - geodel 9y ago
    More like they are smart enough to not think and protest about negative effects of Google ad machine which pays their perks and salaries.
  - em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
    The true test will be if after realizing Voice doesn't work, that they need to Exit.
coldtea 9y ago
They are also not forced to not voice their concern.
- archagon 9y ago
  There’s a lot of disconcerting “shut up and mind your own business” quips against these Googlers in this thread. Whatever happened to standing up for what you believe in?
  - coldtea 9y ago
    In case I was misunderstood, my comment above is in favor of them voicing their concern. The parent said something to the effect "if they don't like it, they are free to go find a job elsewhere", and to that my reply is in the sense, "well, they are also free to voice their concerns".
    - archagon 9y ago
      Sorry, me as well! I wasn't aiming at you, but rather doubling down on your sentiment.
- tapatio 9y ago
  Not necessarily. Case in point: James Damore.

Corollary to that is that they're not forced to work at Google. Google should work on ethical things if they want to keep their employees.

alslsls 9y ago
There are plenty of future employees ready to fill the empty spots.
- jstanley 9y ago
  Yes, and there are plenty of future employers ready to take the ex-Googlers.

DyslexicAtheist 9y ago

not sure why you're getting downvoted for this. Those working for Google (or any large Silicon Valley firm) are usually among the top in their league and should be able to decide where they want to go based on their ideals/values, not because they have no other choice. Compared to the gazillions of engineers out there who are part of a 2nd or even 3rd party outsourcing chain (on crap salary and without rights in the company), Google employees are there because they want to. If the general opinion (in light of what we learned) now shifts towards a believe these companies are evil (which IMO they are) then I hardly feel sorry for the individual engineers. Googlers, Facebookers, Palantir guys should adapt and adjust or read "Who moved my cheese". Time for making these changes are now IMHO.

iraphael 9y ago
They are also smart enough to know that their opinions matter within the company, and they can affect positive change. This open letter is one mechanism for doing that.
- geodel 9y ago
  More like they are smart enough to not think and protest about negative effects of Google ad machine which pays their perks and salaries.
- em3rgent0rdr 9y ago
  The true test will be if after realizing Voice doesn't work, that they need to Exit.

coldtea 9y ago

They are also not forced to not voice their concern.

archagon 9y ago
There’s a lot of disconcerting “shut up and mind your own business” quips against these Googlers in this thread. Whatever happened to standing up for what you believe in?
- coldtea 9y ago
  In case I was misunderstood, my comment above is in favor of them voicing their concern. The parent said something to the effect "if they don't like it, they are free to go find a job elsewhere", and to that my reply is in the sense, "well, they are also free to voice their concerns".
  - archagon 9y ago
    Sorry, me as well! I wasn't aiming at you, but rather doubling down on your sentiment.
tapatio 9y ago
Not necessarily. Case in point: James Damore.