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After our trip to Cambodia we wanted to bring the "Bum Gun" to the UK. For those who haven't tried it, it's the weirdest thing and sounds disgusting. To quote

After our trip to Cambodia we wanted to bring the "Bum Gun" to the UK. For those who haven't tried it, it's the weirdest thing and sounds disgusting. To quote a crazy Canadian we met, "if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean?" That said, SE Asia really lends itself to the Bum Gun. Its warm and can be humid, so you're not really worried about being a bit damp afterwards. I can't imagine being in a suit in cold UK winter and using one. Looking forward to trying a Japanese toilet with those sprays...

andrepd 9y ago
>if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean? Whoa...
JustSomeNobody 9y ago
Do those sprays have the pressure and duration to really spray everything down? I can poor water from a bottle of water onto the poo on my arm and I'd still think it'd be unclean. I'd need some positive pressure to think otherwise. Oh, and some soap.
- peletiah 9y ago
  Combine it with your hand and you get clean, even better when there's soap. Then wash your hands properly. On our bicycle-journey through Asia we had a dedicated squeezable poo-bottle and poo-soap ("Kackflasche" and "Kackseife" in German).
  - VVyattPrentice 9y ago
    Googled "kackflasche". Was disappointed.
- Idontknowmyuser 9y ago
  I've been Tunisia where they had a hose like this in the hotel, as you can see it has variable pressure, and even without setting it to the maximum it's sufficient. https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/b7/48/74/carlton-hotel-tunis.jpg https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/b7/48/74/... Some of them also have variable temperature.
- tikkabhuna 9y ago
  10 minutes later he used the hostel toilet and came back saying that it had torn him a new one. You know a high pressure hose that pushes back when you spray it? It was like that. Vicious. In terms of duration, it was just like a normal tap, I assume fed by the local water supply so you're not limited. I'd use it for max 10 seconds to feel fresh.
Chris2048 9y ago
I'd say most people (in west) have shitty arses. Sometimes, while in a toilet cubicle, I hear other people wipe once or twice, then leave - their arses are definitely shitty. Me - I bring in a cup of water, and wet the paper to give my arse a proper shine.
- overcast 9y ago
  Not everyone has messy shit. I often have literally nothing on the toilet paper. Increase your vegetables, and fiber.
  - Chris2048 9y ago
    I doubt it has literally nothing on it. You can eat nothing but fiber, but bowel mucous is still dirty.
    - blarg1 9y ago
      Haven't you ever done a shit that when you wipe there's nothing on the toilet paper?
      - Chris2048 9y ago
        Nothing visually, I don't consider the paper clean.
        washadjeffmad 9y ago
        I don't understand who would fade for your views on this, and there's no reply explaining so I'll chime in: you're right and I agree. You can think that you've won the poo lottery by pinching one off that seems to wipe clean, but no one is going to recommend sticking that paper back on the roll or putting it in their pocket to wipe their child's face with later just because they don't see anything on it. That's absurdity, and anyone arguing otherwise knows they wouldn't do the same because they don't actually believe it's clean. That "clean" paper has enough on it to inoculate a fecal assay, and for some people, that's enough to cause issues. There's also the case of it wiping clean but not being completely cleared yet. Not everyone needs maintenance wipes, so not everyone even knows or understands how unreliable wiping as an indicator is. The mods of HN are suffering from wipe privilege, and it needs to be addressed.
devmunchies 9y ago
> if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean? My dad says the same thing but he uses wet wipes.
- aeorgnoieang 9y ago
  Those things are supposedly hell on every septic, and even (older?) sewer, system.
  - Cerium 9y ago
    You can put them in the trash.
    - VVyattPrentice 9y ago
      How do you get them from the stall to the trash?
      - devmunchies 9y ago
        you bundle it like a paper basketball and shoot it from the stall.
        VVyattPrentice 9y ago
        Boy was my aim way off! Will have to put some more work in on my sky-hook.
      - josefresco 9y ago
        You must be talking about a public toilet? I think most "normal" or home toilet routines go out the window when using a public restroom.
        chimprich 9y ago
        I don't think throwing them out of the window is the answer either.
Johnny555 9y ago
"if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean?" If you had poo on your arm and rinsed it with a gentle spray of plain water, would you say it's clean? If I had poo on my arm, I'd use soap and water to clean it then rinse well. Of course, if my arm was what was generating the poo, I'd probably be less fastidious about keeping it clean and free of poo. And I'd see a doctor.
- VVyattPrentice 9y ago
  >If I had poo on my arm, I'd use soap and water to clean it then rinse well. This is the correct answer. Baby wipes or go home.
  - dominotw 9y ago
    Plumbing wasn't designed for them in most places. Most of them are not really "flushable" like they claim.
    - Raphmedia 9y ago
      That's because people use "face wipes" instead of "wet wipes" meant to be used for the bum.
      - dominotw 9y ago
        No. Not really. flushable bum wipes are not really flushable.
        Raphmedia 9y ago
        What? You can't say "no" to an entire line of products. Simply make sure that you buy wipes that are flushable AND biodegradable. Flushable simply means that the wipe will make it out of your home. You also need to live in a country where there are rules in place stopping manufacturer from lying on the packets. If they are made of, let's say, viscose rayon which is wood pulp (well, any compatible plant fiber) there's no reason why it would clog anything at the processing plant. Edit: Well, it would also depend on how your local plant processes waste. Give them a call and ask them.
VVyattPrentice 9y ago
>Looking forward to trying a Japanese toilet with those sprays... Why wouldn't you just use the 3 seashells?
michaelbuckbee 9y ago
Some googling found this informative (and entirely SFW) "bum gun" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V32m3FZbjg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V32m3FZbjg

andrepd 9y ago

>if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean? Whoa...

JustSomeNobody 9y ago

Do those sprays have the pressure and duration to really spray everything down? I can poor water from a bottle of water onto the poo on my arm and I'd still think it'd be unclean. I'd need some positive pressure to think otherwise. Oh, and some soap.

peletiah 9y ago
Combine it with your hand and you get clean, even better when there's soap. Then wash your hands properly. On our bicycle-journey through Asia we had a dedicated squeezable poo-bottle and poo-soap ("Kackflasche" and "Kackseife" in German).
- VVyattPrentice 9y ago
  Googled "kackflasche". Was disappointed.
Idontknowmyuser 9y ago
I've been Tunisia where they had a hose like this in the hotel, as you can see it has variable pressure, and even without setting it to the maximum it's sufficient. https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/b7/48/74/carlton-hotel-tunis.jpg https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/b7/48/74/... Some of them also have variable temperature.
tikkabhuna 9y ago
10 minutes later he used the hostel toilet and came back saying that it had torn him a new one. You know a high pressure hose that pushes back when you spray it? It was like that. Vicious. In terms of duration, it was just like a normal tap, I assume fed by the local water supply so you're not limited. I'd use it for max 10 seconds to feel fresh.

Chris2048 9y ago

I'd say most people (in west) have shitty arses. Sometimes, while in a toilet cubicle, I hear other people wipe once or twice, then leave - their arses are definitely shitty. Me - I bring in a cup of water, and wet the paper to give my arse a proper shine.

overcast 9y ago
Not everyone has messy shit. I often have literally nothing on the toilet paper. Increase your vegetables, and fiber.
- Chris2048 9y ago
  I doubt it has literally nothing on it. You can eat nothing but fiber, but bowel mucous is still dirty.
  - blarg1 9y ago
    Haven't you ever done a shit that when you wipe there's nothing on the toilet paper?
    - Chris2048 9y ago
      Nothing visually, I don't consider the paper clean.
      - washadjeffmad 9y ago
        I don't understand who would fade for your views on this, and there's no reply explaining so I'll chime in: you're right and I agree. You can think that you've won the poo lottery by pinching one off that seems to wipe clean, but no one is going to recommend sticking that paper back on the roll or putting it in their pocket to wipe their child's face with later just because they don't see anything on it. That's absurdity, and anyone arguing otherwise knows they wouldn't do the same because they don't actually believe it's clean. That "clean" paper has enough on it to inoculate a fecal assay, and for some people, that's enough to cause issues. There's also the case of it wiping clean but not being completely cleared yet. Not everyone needs maintenance wipes, so not everyone even knows or understands how unreliable wiping as an indicator is. The mods of HN are suffering from wipe privilege, and it needs to be addressed.

devmunchies 9y ago

> if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean? My dad says the same thing but he uses wet wipes.

aeorgnoieang 9y ago
Those things are supposedly hell on every septic, and even (older?) sewer, system.
- Cerium 9y ago
  You can put them in the trash.
  - VVyattPrentice 9y ago
    How do you get them from the stall to the trash?
    - devmunchies 9y ago
      you bundle it like a paper basketball and shoot it from the stall.
      - VVyattPrentice 9y ago
        Boy was my aim way off! Will have to put some more work in on my sky-hook.
    - josefresco 9y ago
      You must be talking about a public toilet? I think most "normal" or home toilet routines go out the window when using a public restroom.
      - chimprich 9y ago
        I don't think throwing them out of the window is the answer either.

Johnny555 9y ago

"if you had poo on your arm and you wiped it off with toilet paper, would you say its clean?" If you had poo on your arm and rinsed it with a gentle spray of plain water, would you say it's clean? If I had poo on my arm, I'd use soap and water to clean it then rinse well. Of course, if my arm was what was generating the poo, I'd probably be less fastidious about keeping it clean and free of poo. And I'd see a doctor.

VVyattPrentice 9y ago
>If I had poo on my arm, I'd use soap and water to clean it then rinse well. This is the correct answer. Baby wipes or go home.
- dominotw 9y ago
  Plumbing wasn't designed for them in most places. Most of them are not really "flushable" like they claim.
  - Raphmedia 9y ago
    That's because people use "face wipes" instead of "wet wipes" meant to be used for the bum.
    - dominotw 9y ago
      No. Not really. flushable bum wipes are not really flushable.
      - Raphmedia 9y ago
        What? You can't say "no" to an entire line of products. Simply make sure that you buy wipes that are flushable AND biodegradable. Flushable simply means that the wipe will make it out of your home. You also need to live in a country where there are rules in place stopping manufacturer from lying on the packets. If they are made of, let's say, viscose rayon which is wood pulp (well, any compatible plant fiber) there's no reason why it would clog anything at the processing plant. Edit: Well, it would also depend on how your local plant processes waste. Give them a call and ask them.

VVyattPrentice 9y ago

>Looking forward to trying a Japanese toilet with those sprays... Why wouldn't you just use the 3 seashells?

michaelbuckbee 9y ago

Some googling found this informative (and entirely SFW) "bum gun" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V32m3FZbjg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V32m3FZbjg