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Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in and tell people you know they're not to show photos of you to other people then? Or tell people not to take

Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in and tell people you know they're not to show photos of you to other people then? Or tell people not to take photos of you? If Facebook didn't exist, people would still show photos to people in other ways. If someone takes your photo they're more than likely going to show it to somebody so I would assume a low level of privacy by default.

mulander 9y ago
> Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in And how should I do that if I don't have a Facebook account? How do I tell Facebook to not steal my phone number and texts from phones of my friends?
- seanwilson 9y ago
  > How do I tell Facebook to not steal my phone number and texts from phones of my friends? https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-and-sms-history/ https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-an... "Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. ... This feature does not collect the content of your calls or text messages"
  - barrkel 9y ago
    So, to reiterate, how to stop Facebook from stealing your phone number from your friend's phones? Phone numbers aren't content - FB is still stealing it.
    - wilsonnb 9y ago
      It's not stealing if your friend consents to it. If you don't want your phone number shared with Facebook, don't share it with people who are going to share it with Facebook.
- wilsonnb 9y ago
  You can't tell Facebook not to do that because your phone number and texts are no longer just yours at that point. Your friend has a copy and can do whatever they want with them, including share them with Facebook, the NSA/FBI/police, their friends, or anyone else they want to. If you don't want them shared with Facebook, don't give the people who are sharing them with Facebook a copy.
davnicwil 9y ago
> People would still show photos to people in other ways. I suspect this is not the issue or what the parent means by privacy. Rather, they probably mean specifically that they don't want their metadata enriched photos being made available, without their explicit knowledge or consent, to Facebook the company (and therefore also indirectly to any number of other companies / advertisers). If Facebook didn't exist, people certainly wouldn't do that! That's purely an unavoidable side effect of Facebook's current business model.
mayniac 9y ago
>Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in and tell people you know they're not to show photos of you to other people then? That does protect you to some level. But throw in machine learning with image processing and simple metadata extraction and while your friends might not see the photo, Facebook can potentially figure out if you're in the photo whether or not you've been tagged, where the photo was taken, what camera the photo was taken with, what mood you're in, who's with you, what clothes you're wearing etc etc. And then they'll sell that data without ever telling you. I have a bigger issue with that happening than I have issues with friends seeing photos I may not have wanted to posted myself, to be honest.

mulander 9y ago

> Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in And how should I do that if I don't have a Facebook account? How do I tell Facebook to not steal my phone number and texts from phones of my friends?

seanwilson 9y ago
> How do I tell Facebook to not steal my phone number and texts from phones of my friends? https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-and-sms-history/ https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-an... "Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. ... This feature does not collect the content of your calls or text messages"
- barrkel 9y ago
  So, to reiterate, how to stop Facebook from stealing your phone number from your friend's phones? Phone numbers aren't content - FB is still stealing it.
  - wilsonnb 9y ago
    It's not stealing if your friend consents to it. If you don't want your phone number shared with Facebook, don't share it with people who are going to share it with Facebook.
wilsonnb 9y ago
You can't tell Facebook not to do that because your phone number and texts are no longer just yours at that point. Your friend has a copy and can do whatever they want with them, including share them with Facebook, the NSA/FBI/police, their friends, or anyone else they want to. If you don't want them shared with Facebook, don't give the people who are sharing them with Facebook a copy.

davnicwil 9y ago

> People would still show photos to people in other ways. I suspect this is not the issue or what the parent means by privacy. Rather, they probably mean specifically that they don't want their metadata enriched photos being made available, without their explicit knowledge or consent, to Facebook the company (and therefore also indirectly to any number of other companies / advertisers). If Facebook didn't exist, people certainly wouldn't do that! That's purely an unavoidable side effect of Facebook's current business model.

mayniac 9y ago

>Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in and tell people you know they're not to show photos of you to other people then? That does protect you to some level. But throw in machine learning with image processing and simple metadata extraction and while your friends might not see the photo, Facebook can potentially figure out if you're in the photo whether or not you've been tagged, where the photo was taken, what camera the photo was taken with, what mood you're in, who's with you, what clothes you're wearing etc etc. And then they'll sell that data without ever telling you. I have a bigger issue with that happening than I have issues with friends seeing photos I may not have wanted to posted myself, to be honest.