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> Tesla’s Autopilot reduces crashes by 40% according to the NHTSA This claim was immediately called into suspicion when it was first published, and the NHTSA i

• toomuchtodo 9y ago
  As noted in your citation, Tesla requested the data they provided to be confidential (which is not an uncommon request), and the NHTSA granted the request. Whether the statement from the regulatory agency can be independently verified is immaterial.
  • danso 9y ago
    > Whether the statement from the regulatory agency can be independently verified is immaterial You believe independent verification of study results are "immaterial"? OK.
    • toomuchtodo 9y ago
      Because I do not have access to raw data does not make the resulting facts any less true (see: proprietary hurricane models). The NHTSA made a determination and I’m using it as a data point.
      • danso 9y ago
        OK, and all I said in my comment was that the NHTSA was asked for elaboration and proof -- because its findings seemed curious with respect to other study results -- and so far they have declined further explanation. This may be relevant information for anyone who sees you using the NHTSA's claim as a premise.
        • toomuchtodo 9y ago
          Fair point. I upvoted your posts; thinking about it further, it’s a legitimate line of inquiry.
          • danso 9y ago
            I think I normally would have given Tesla the benefit of the doubt. But after the misleading, weasely-worded data they discussed to defend AutoPilot in light of the recent fatal accident [0], I think the onus is now on them to provide more concrete proof. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16722500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16722500