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Agreed. That was in Chicago. It also was reproduced exactly in CA crash location in https://electrek.co/2018/04/03/tesla-autopilot-crash-barrier-markings-fatal-

by jijojv 9y ago

Agreed. That was in Chicago. It also was reproduced exactly in CA crash location in https://electrek.co/2018/04/03/tesla-autopilot-crash-barrier-markings-fatal-model-x-accident/ https://electrek.co/2018/04/03/tesla-autopilot-crash-barrier...

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mirimir 9y ago
Indeed. His Tesla was clearly following the clearest left-side white line. Which unfortunately pointed the car right at the gore point. But what amazes me is that Tesla autopilot apparently won't swerve or stop when it sees an unmoving object straight ahead. Whether it's a semi, a fire truck, or a gore point. But I gather that trying to detect that stuff generates too many false positives. And that overall, it would arguably cause more accidents net. Edit: I have faced that ambiguity myself. When driving, perhaps foolishly, in fog so dense that I could only see the lines on the road.
- Animats 9y ago
  But what amazes me is that Tesla autopilot apparently won't swerve or stop when it sees an unmoving object straight ahead. It won't even brake unless the thing in front looks like the back end of a car or truck. Even then, if it's stationary, it may still get hit. It won't swerve, ever; it has no logic for that. Four times that we know of, a Tesla has plowed into a vehicle partly blocking a lane. Putting something on the road which pretends to self-drive and can't detect solid obstacles is criminal.
  - Tempest1981 9y ago
    Will it brake for pedestrians?
    - nugi 9y ago
      If I was walking, I sure would not trust it to. But their feature is for the highway, where peds are not expected. I am sure they expect to shift blame by that reasoning.
    - mirimir 9y ago
      I doubt that it would. But seriously, name "autopilot" aside, it's intended for divided highways. With high-quality road markings. And no stop lights. And to be fair, airplane autopilots handle flying and landing. They don't handle driving between runways and gates.

by jijojv 9y ago

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mirimir 9y ago

Indeed. His Tesla was clearly following the clearest left-side white line. Which unfortunately pointed the car right at the gore point. But what amazes me is that Tesla autopilot apparently won't swerve or stop when it sees an unmoving object straight ahead. Whether it's a semi, a fire truck, or a gore point. But I gather that trying to detect that stuff generates too many false positives. And that overall, it would arguably cause more accidents net. Edit: I have faced that ambiguity myself. When driving, perhaps foolishly, in fog so dense that I could only see the lines on the road.

Animats 9y ago
But what amazes me is that Tesla autopilot apparently won't swerve or stop when it sees an unmoving object straight ahead. It won't even brake unless the thing in front looks like the back end of a car or truck. Even then, if it's stationary, it may still get hit. It won't swerve, ever; it has no logic for that. Four times that we know of, a Tesla has plowed into a vehicle partly blocking a lane. Putting something on the road which pretends to self-drive and can't detect solid obstacles is criminal.
- Tempest1981 9y ago
  Will it brake for pedestrians?
  - nugi 9y ago
    If I was walking, I sure would not trust it to. But their feature is for the highway, where peds are not expected. I am sure they expect to shift blame by that reasoning.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    I doubt that it would. But seriously, name "autopilot" aside, it's intended for divided highways. With high-quality road markings. And no stop lights. And to be fair, airplane autopilots handle flying and landing. They don't handle driving between runways and gates.