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Is the recent attack on Facebook a coordinated effort to kill Zuck's office run? Don't get me wrong, I think all the flak Facebook is getting is deserved but t

by lz400 9y ago

Is the recent attack on Facebook a coordinated effort to kill Zuck's office run? Don't get me wrong, I think all the flak Facebook is getting is deserved but there's little in the revelations coming lately after Cambridge Analytica that is really new. However the media backlash is a lot, a lot bigger and more sustained that I thought it'd be, even here in HN. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but could it be partially orchestrated by some political powers that be to kill his political aspirations? Or even if it didn't start that way, I guess it could have been helped by this.

rock_hard 9y ago
On top of that news outlets essentially lost almost all their web traffic after FB started focusing on meaningful connections in January. They are probably beyond pissed because of the ad revenue loses...wonder how many of them will fold soon?
- lz400 9y ago
  Can you elaborate on how that change affected news outlets? I can understand they losing traffic to fb in general but I guess I'm unaware of that specific change.
  - rock_hard 9y ago
    https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10104413015393571 https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10104413015393571
tyingq 9y ago
I think his sort of awkward introvert style already marked him as not much of a threat politically. How would he do in a debate? Thus, not buying a conspiracy to keep him out of politics. It shouldn't be this way, but charisma is a base requirement in politics.
- lz400 9y ago
  I don't disagree but listening to the absolute nonsensical, lie riddled incoherent rambling of the current POTUS makes me believe I don't really know what charisma is.
  - tyingq 9y ago
    It's resonating with enough people, if not you and I :) Believe it or not, he was, at one time a fairly eloquent speaker: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544001/donald-trump-1991-house-hearing-us-economic-recovery-depression-vs-recession https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544001/donald-trump-1991-hou...
    - daodedickinson 9y ago
      He used to appeal to his Ivy peers and clearly had to put in a lot of effort to change to a style that appealed to the broadest number of people.
      - tyingq 9y ago
        Or perhaps he just has a touch of dementia and a lot of right place / right time ;)
paxys 9y ago
There is no way Zuckerberg was ever going to hold any political office. Why on earth would he even want to? He has WAY more power and influence simply by controlling the Facebook empire and being worth $60+ billion. All this talk started because he hired a top Obama campaign manager as a lobbyist for his foundation, and somehow people got "he obviously wants to be President" out of it.
- dTal 9y ago
  Well no, he also went on a grand 'meet the plebs' tour, and recently claimed that religion was 'very important to [him]' after historically being an atheist, to name just two highly suggestive actions in addition to the one you mention.
- acoard 9y ago
  This started because Zuckerberg added a "public-service clause", wherein he could go into public office for a period of 2 years and then come back to his role as CEO of Facebook. Adding this clause caused friction with members of the board, which proves it's important to him. https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/8/13889308/mark-zuckerberg-president-public-office-facebook https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/8/13889308/mark-zuckerberg-... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/mark-zuckerbergs-political-ambitions-revealed https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/mark-zuckerbergs-pol...
galactose 9y ago
To me, it seems more recently that these larger negative stories tend to linger around. I think it's less related to malicious intent, and more, news websites attempting to capture more of the residual interest with a barrage of derivative articles (and succeeding).

by lz400 9y ago

rock_hard 9y ago

On top of that news outlets essentially lost almost all their web traffic after FB started focusing on meaningful connections in January. They are probably beyond pissed because of the ad revenue loses...wonder how many of them will fold soon?

lz400 9y ago
Can you elaborate on how that change affected news outlets? I can understand they losing traffic to fb in general but I guess I'm unaware of that specific change.
- rock_hard 9y ago
  https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10104413015393571 https://www.facebook.com/zuck/posts/10104413015393571

tyingq 9y ago

I think his sort of awkward introvert style already marked him as not much of a threat politically. How would he do in a debate? Thus, not buying a conspiracy to keep him out of politics. It shouldn't be this way, but charisma is a base requirement in politics.

lz400 9y ago
I don't disagree but listening to the absolute nonsensical, lie riddled incoherent rambling of the current POTUS makes me believe I don't really know what charisma is.
- tyingq 9y ago
  It's resonating with enough people, if not you and I :) Believe it or not, he was, at one time a fairly eloquent speaker: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544001/donald-trump-1991-house-hearing-us-economic-recovery-depression-vs-recession https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4544001/donald-trump-1991-hou...
  - daodedickinson 9y ago
    He used to appeal to his Ivy peers and clearly had to put in a lot of effort to change to a style that appealed to the broadest number of people.
    - tyingq 9y ago
      Or perhaps he just has a touch of dementia and a lot of right place / right time ;)

paxys 9y ago

There is no way Zuckerberg was ever going to hold any political office. Why on earth would he even want to? He has WAY more power and influence simply by controlling the Facebook empire and being worth $60+ billion. All this talk started because he hired a top Obama campaign manager as a lobbyist for his foundation, and somehow people got "he obviously wants to be President" out of it.

dTal 9y ago
Well no, he also went on a grand 'meet the plebs' tour, and recently claimed that religion was 'very important to [him]' after historically being an atheist, to name just two highly suggestive actions in addition to the one you mention.
acoard 9y ago
This started because Zuckerberg added a "public-service clause", wherein he could go into public office for a period of 2 years and then come back to his role as CEO of Facebook. Adding this clause caused friction with members of the board, which proves it's important to him. https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/8/13889308/mark-zuckerberg-president-public-office-facebook https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/8/13889308/mark-zuckerberg-... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/mark-zuckerbergs-political-ambitions-revealed https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/mark-zuckerbergs-pol...

galactose 9y ago

To me, it seems more recently that these larger negative stories tend to linger around. I think it's less related to malicious intent, and more, news websites attempting to capture more of the residual interest with a barrage of derivative articles (and succeeding).