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So if Harvard systematically discriminates against certain races in their admissions process can lying about your race on an application be considered an act of

So if Harvard systematically discriminates against certain races in their admissions process can lying about your race on an application be considered an act of civil disobedience? What's the difference between an Asian who wants to go to college saying they're black to get in and black children that wanted to go to white only schools during the civil rights movement? Why should either be denied an education based on their race? And then, if you're not ok with people lying about their race to gain admission what punishment should befall those that do lie? What should be done to those who commit race fraud?

chrischen 9y ago
I'd imagine you wouldn't be lying. You'd be "identifying" as black. And while you're at it, identify as a black woman. It would throw the whole system into chaos (until people start profiling based on names).
en4bz 9y ago
There was an Indian-American guy who did this to become a doctor. https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/ https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains...
fatjokes 9y ago
Pretty sure they don't care about the box you check. They're just looking at your name and maybe your extracurriculars. I like to check random boxes. Given the precarious definition of race one could probably argue they belong to any race.
prepend 9y ago
What’s interesting about this is the difficulty of testing of someone is lying. Race isn’t purely genetic, so how do you call someone who is 40% Asian, 20% African, 40% European ancestry who looks “black” from identifying as African American? What’s the threshold? I really wanted the Rachel Dolezal to get into a court case somehow just to see what the legal ruling is. If someone who is 99.99% ashkenazi and 0.01% African truly believes she is black, who is a Harvard admissions person to contract them? Logically, this follows to a pretty weird place. With trends in census showing increase in multiracial populations, I hope it becomes a moot point before society goes full retard with “racial impurity” tests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal

chrischen 9y ago

I'd imagine you wouldn't be lying. You'd be "identifying" as black. And while you're at it, identify as a black woman. It would throw the whole system into chaos (until people start profiling based on names).

en4bz 9y ago

There was an Indian-American guy who did this to become a doctor. https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/ https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains...

fatjokes 9y ago

Pretty sure they don't care about the box you check. They're just looking at your name and maybe your extracurriculars. I like to check random boxes. Given the precarious definition of race one could probably argue they belong to any race.

prepend 9y ago

What’s interesting about this is the difficulty of testing of someone is lying. Race isn’t purely genetic, so how do you call someone who is 40% Asian, 20% African, 40% European ancestry who looks “black” from identifying as African American? What’s the threshold? I really wanted the Rachel Dolezal to get into a court case somehow just to see what the legal ruling is. If someone who is 99.99% ashkenazi and 0.01% African truly believes she is black, who is a Harvard admissions person to contract them? Logically, this follows to a pretty weird place. With trends in census showing increase in multiracial populations, I hope it becomes a moot point before society goes full retard with “racial impurity” tests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal