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Let's be honest, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last. Harvard has previously discriminated against Jews, and is now discriminating against Asians
by whack 9y ago
Let's be honest, this isn't the first time and it won't be the last. Harvard has previously discriminated against Jews, and is now discriminating against Asians for the exact same reasons. I'm all for lending a helping hand to those from disadvantaged backgrounds. But using race is a punitive factor to punish minorities that are "too successful", is pure racism.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/harvard-s-jewish-problem http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/harvard-s-jewish-problem
By 1919 ... Jews at Harvard tripled to 21% of the freshman class in 1922 from about 7% in 1900. Ivy League Jews won a disproportionate share of academic prizes and election to Phi Beta Kappa but were widely regarded as competitive, eager to excel academically and less interested in extra-curricular activities such as organized sports. Non-Jews accused them of being clannish, socially unskilled and either unwilling or unable to“fit in.”
In 1922, Harvard's president, A. Lawrence Lowell, proposed a quota on the number of Jews gaining admission to the university. Lowell was convinced that Harvard could only survive if the majority of its students came from old American stock.
Lowell argued that cutting the number of Jews at Harvard to a maximum of 15% would be good for the Jews, because limits would prevent further anti-Semitism. Lowell reasoned, “The anti-Semitic feeling among the students is increasing, and it grows in proportion to the increase in the number of Jews. If their number should become 40% of the student body, the race feeling would become intense.”
- cuckcuckspruce 9y ago>But using race is a punitive factor to punish minorities that are "too successful", is pure racism. Is it racism to punish members of the majority that are "too successful"? I'm not trying to make a point with this question - I am just asking.
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- ikeyany 9y ago> But using race is a punitive factor to punish minorities that are "too successful", is pure racism. It would seem more "fair" to instead factor in your parents' income or education, or what kind of neighborhood or high school you're from.
- MikeTheGreat 9y agoThose factors all correlate with your race, though, so this doesn't really change anything - racism by proxy is still racism.
- unclebucknasty 9y agoPretty sure the GP was intended to be ironic.
- ikeyany 9y agoThose factors all correlate with class...it doesn't need to be about race.
- zeth___ 9y agoBut then we'd get the rif raff! No no, much better to start from the upper middle class and work your way up. While making sure you have as much possible visible diversity to hide the fact everyone in the class has exactly the same upbringing. I went to an ivy league and so many of the minorities were nothing of the sort. Props to the 'African American' who shall remain nameless, but was the grandson of an African general who had killed tens of thousands of women and children, stolen as much money as he could, sent his son off to America before the coup, and had a blond blue eyed former model for a mother. That guy needed all the help he could get because slavery.
- jessriedel 9y agoThese plots of the Asian enrollment at Ivy League schools converging tightly to 15% even as the Asian fraction of the population has doubled are striking evidence that there is a very well defined quota. NYTimes: http://reappropriate.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/nytimes-asian-american-enrollment.jpg http://reappropriate.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/nytimes-a... Economist: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T5jqm6t78Mo/VsELOqHiXiI/AAAAAAAAQok/GNj-74-KTXU/s1600/economist_aa.png https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T5jqm6t78Mo/VsELOqHiXiI/AAAAAAAAQ... Notably, Caltech has race-neutral admissions, and their Asian enrollment has tracked the increase in the general population. EDIT: Note that the plots show total number of Asians rather than the Asian fraction of the population, which would be a more appropriate benchmark since the total population is growing. However, between 1990 and 2011 the US population grew by just shy of 25% while the Asian population more than doubled.