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Yes, they have access. The point is more that they have an automated system scanning and flagging messages, specifically so that they're reviewed by humans, for

by Shank 9y ago

Yes, they have access. The point is more that they have an automated system scanning and flagging messages, specifically so that they're reviewed by humans, for content they don't want on their platform. My landlord has access to my apartment, and I certainly don't expect them to just pop in and take things out that they don't like -- I at least expect some kind of notice. You can apply this to basically anything in the physical world, like mail. Having the capability to access does not equate to having permission to access.

konceptz 9y ago
In many states (all of them?) landlords are specifically not legally allowed to “just pop in” without reasonable cause or sufficient notice. So yes I agree with your statement but in this example it’s already a law.
rco8786 9y ago
> Having the capability to access does not equate to having permission to access. So it would be ok if there was a 30 day delay on the messages Facebook was accessing? I don't understand your analogy.
fencepost 9y ago
The point is more that they have an automated system scanning and flagging messages, specifically so that they're reviewed by humans, for content they don't want on their platform. Expect more of that due to the recently passed sex trafficking legislation that got Craigslist personals, reddit escorts and all sorts of other places shut down.
BeetleB 9y ago
>My landlord has access to my apartment, and I certainly don't expect them to just pop in and take things out that they don't like -- I at least expect some kind of notice. That is because there are laws preventing them from doing it (both the theft and the entry without notice). And I did live in a state that allows them entry without prior notice. And they did do it. And it didn't bother me because they clearly have the right to do so. >You can apply this to basically anything in the physical world, like mail. Again, very clear legislation on this. I believe it is an explicit felony to open other people's (physical) mail. >Having the capability to access does not equate to having permission to access. Yes, but sans any legislation, doing stuff on their platform does equate to having permission to access - especially if there is no legal contract (e.g. terms of service, privacy policy, etc) stating otherwise. I honestly don't get this. In the old days people (including me) ran message boards on this web site. There was no shock when the owner of the message board deleted posts or put filters, etc.

by Shank 9y ago

konceptz 9y ago

In many states (all of them?) landlords are specifically not legally allowed to “just pop in” without reasonable cause or sufficient notice. So yes I agree with your statement but in this example it’s already a law.

rco8786 9y ago

> Having the capability to access does not equate to having permission to access. So it would be ok if there was a 30 day delay on the messages Facebook was accessing? I don't understand your analogy.

fencepost 9y ago

The point is more that they have an automated system scanning and flagging messages, specifically so that they're reviewed by humans, for content they don't want on their platform. Expect more of that due to the recently passed sex trafficking legislation that got Craigslist personals, reddit escorts and all sorts of other places shut down.

BeetleB 9y ago

>My landlord has access to my apartment, and I certainly don't expect them to just pop in and take things out that they don't like -- I at least expect some kind of notice. That is because there are laws preventing them from doing it (both the theft and the entry without notice). And I did live in a state that allows them entry without prior notice. And they did do it. And it didn't bother me because they clearly have the right to do so. >You can apply this to basically anything in the physical world, like mail. Again, very clear legislation on this. I believe it is an explicit felony to open other people's (physical) mail. >Having the capability to access does not equate to having permission to access. Yes, but sans any legislation, doing stuff on their platform does equate to having permission to access - especially if there is no legal contract (e.g. terms of service, privacy policy, etc) stating otherwise. I honestly don't get this. In the old days people (including me) ran message boards on this web site. There was no shock when the owner of the message board deleted posts or put filters, etc.