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We aren't going to go to war with Russia, despite the propaganda that everyone is spreading. Wars between nuclear countries don't happen any more.

by stale2002 9y ago

friedman23 9y ago
The reason we aren't going to war with Russia is because Russian leaders know that it is impossible to win a war against the current US military. The reason it's impossible to win a war against the current US military is because the US has spent an obscene amount of money building it for decades. If the US military were not capable of defending Eastern Europe, Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics would be under Russian rule today.
- stale2002 9y ago
  No, it is because of the nukes. Nukes prevent any war from happening between any powerful nation. If we spent 1 tenth the amount on our military, we'd still have the power to blow up the entire world X times over. I just think that if you have the ability to destroy the entire world, then that's a powerful enough military and you don't need anything more for defense.
  - friedman23 9y ago
    You actually believe that the US would use nuclear weapons against Russia, ensuring the deaths of 10s of millions of Americans and sparking global nuclear war, if Russia invaded Estonia? The only thing preventing Eastern Europe from being invaded is the conventional military. The US will never risk it's own existence for another country. The Russians know this.
    - stale2002 9y ago
      I don't want the US to be involved in proxy wars with other countries. So no, I don't believe that the US would do that and I am happy about that. The US would only use Nukes if there was an attack on the US. I want the US to stay out of all wars that aren't directed related to attacks on US soil and US citizens. If the EU is worried about invasion, then they should have their own military to defend themselves.
jstarfish 9y ago
I suspect conventional war is a thing of the past. Cyber-warfare is going to be where it's at. You spend years infiltrating adversary networks, backdooring critical systems/infrastructure and exfiltrating intelligence so when the time comes for conflict, you already know what cards they're going to play, where all the pieces are on the map and you can shut it all down with a few commands. Then you start your blitzkrieg unopposed. It's telling Russia, China and North Korea so heavily encourage cyber-espionage and malware development. Meanwhile in the US, we've got idiots passing laws criminalizing mere infosec research. We're handicapping ourselves against a threat our adversaries are all too eager to employ.
wilsonnb 9y ago
India and Pakistan went to war briefly in 1999 and both of them had nuclear weapons at the time (and still do, I think). I wouldn't rule out the possibility of future wars between them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

We aren't going to go to war with Russia, despite the propaganda that everyone is spreading. Wars between nuclear countries don't happen any more.

friedman23 9y ago

The reason we aren't going to war with Russia is because Russian leaders know that it is impossible to win a war against the current US military. The reason it's impossible to win a war against the current US military is because the US has spent an obscene amount of money building it for decades. If the US military were not capable of defending Eastern Europe, Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics would be under Russian rule today.

stale2002 9y ago
No, it is because of the nukes. Nukes prevent any war from happening between any powerful nation. If we spent 1 tenth the amount on our military, we'd still have the power to blow up the entire world X times over. I just think that if you have the ability to destroy the entire world, then that's a powerful enough military and you don't need anything more for defense.
- friedman23 9y ago
  You actually believe that the US would use nuclear weapons against Russia, ensuring the deaths of 10s of millions of Americans and sparking global nuclear war, if Russia invaded Estonia? The only thing preventing Eastern Europe from being invaded is the conventional military. The US will never risk it's own existence for another country. The Russians know this.
  - stale2002 9y ago
    I don't want the US to be involved in proxy wars with other countries. So no, I don't believe that the US would do that and I am happy about that. The US would only use Nukes if there was an attack on the US. I want the US to stay out of all wars that aren't directed related to attacks on US soil and US citizens. If the EU is worried about invasion, then they should have their own military to defend themselves.

jstarfish 9y ago

I suspect conventional war is a thing of the past. Cyber-warfare is going to be where it's at. You spend years infiltrating adversary networks, backdooring critical systems/infrastructure and exfiltrating intelligence so when the time comes for conflict, you already know what cards they're going to play, where all the pieces are on the map and you can shut it all down with a few commands. Then you start your blitzkrieg unopposed. It's telling Russia, China and North Korea so heavily encourage cyber-espionage and malware development. Meanwhile in the US, we've got idiots passing laws criminalizing mere infosec research. We're handicapping ourselves against a threat our adversaries are all too eager to employ.

wilsonnb 9y ago

India and Pakistan went to war briefly in 1999 and both of them had nuclear weapons at the time (and still do, I think). I wouldn't rule out the possibility of future wars between them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War