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The only person in this thread who used the word "victims" was you. This is a Burning-man-sized strawman.

• jacquesm 9y ago
  No it wasn't... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16754694 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16754694
  • fricat1ve 9y ago
    Right, sorry, I missed that. In any case, using loaded language doesn't change the validity of the argument.