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if you connect to facebook from a vpn in europe would you be covered?

by dec0dedab0de 9y ago

Fej 9y ago
If I'm not mistaken, you have to be a citizen of the European Union.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Citizen or resident.
  - cesarb 9y ago
    If being a citizen is enough, does that mean that someone who never set foot in the EU but has European parents (from a jus sanguinis jurisdiction) would also be covered?
    - striking 9y ago
      You'd have to ask a lawyer but I assume they'd want you to prove it with a passport.
- dec0dedab0de 9y ago
  If you do have to be a citizen, I wonder what happens if someone moves to the EU, and becomes a citizen. Does it only apply to data since they became a citizen, or retroactively to all data? Also, how could facebook verify that you're a citizen or not, couldn't you just say you were always a citizen, just on a greencard in the US for a few years? Would it be illegal to show facebook a fake id? Just idle curiosity.
  - dannyw 9y ago
    Data doesn’t have rights; you as a human (citizen or resident of EU) have rights on your data. So it’s retroactive.
  - JumpCrisscross 9y ago
    > Would it be illegal to show facebook a fake id? Almost certainly. That's lying for personal gain, i.e. fraud. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. Don't do fraud.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    > Would it be illegal to show facebook a fake id? Facebook doesn't have much to do with that, the creation or possession of a fake ID can already get you in trouble even if you never use it at all. This is highly dependent on where you live, better check your local laws.
  - fasteddie 9y ago
    So this covers the "right to be forgotten" part of GDPR. However, there are plenty of other parts -- like not using tracking cookies til you explicitly give permission, that most sites will likely implement just with geoip targeting.
  - ljk 9y ago
    i would guess they would do whatever the minimum is to stay "legal" and maximize profit... er i mean, "connecting people"
- rmc 9y ago
  No, Art 3 says it applies to companies/orgs within the EU, regardless of where their users are, and to companies who process data about EU residents regardless of where the company is https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/oj
hootum 9y ago
I was about to ask the same thing. When will the new laws will be in effect for FB users?
- rmc 9y ago
  25 May 2018
rmc 9y ago
Legally no, you have to reside in the EU. You might trick Facebook's algorithms into putting you in the EU category. Check who you have your Facebook account with, AFAIK people outside the USA & Canada have an account with Facebook Ireland Ltd, so would be covered by GDPR. So, someone in India probably has an account with FB Irl, so is covered by GDPR. A VPN is not necessary!

if you connect to facebook from a vpn in europe would you be covered?

Fej 9y ago

If I'm not mistaken, you have to be a citizen of the European Union.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
Citizen or resident.
- cesarb 9y ago
  If being a citizen is enough, does that mean that someone who never set foot in the EU but has European parents (from a jus sanguinis jurisdiction) would also be covered?
  - striking 9y ago
    You'd have to ask a lawyer but I assume they'd want you to prove it with a passport.
dec0dedab0de 9y ago
If you do have to be a citizen, I wonder what happens if someone moves to the EU, and becomes a citizen. Does it only apply to data since they became a citizen, or retroactively to all data? Also, how could facebook verify that you're a citizen or not, couldn't you just say you were always a citizen, just on a greencard in the US for a few years? Would it be illegal to show facebook a fake id? Just idle curiosity.
- dannyw 9y ago
  Data doesn’t have rights; you as a human (citizen or resident of EU) have rights on your data. So it’s retroactive.
- JumpCrisscross 9y ago
  > Would it be illegal to show facebook a fake id? Almost certainly. That's lying for personal gain, i.e. fraud. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice. Don't do fraud.
- jacquesm 9y ago
  > Would it be illegal to show facebook a fake id? Facebook doesn't have much to do with that, the creation or possession of a fake ID can already get you in trouble even if you never use it at all. This is highly dependent on where you live, better check your local laws.
- fasteddie 9y ago
  So this covers the "right to be forgotten" part of GDPR. However, there are plenty of other parts -- like not using tracking cookies til you explicitly give permission, that most sites will likely implement just with geoip targeting.
- ljk 9y ago
  i would guess they would do whatever the minimum is to stay "legal" and maximize profit... er i mean, "connecting people"
rmc 9y ago
No, Art 3 says it applies to companies/orgs within the EU, regardless of where their users are, and to companies who process data about EU residents regardless of where the company is https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/oj https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/oj

hootum 9y ago

I was about to ask the same thing. When will the new laws will be in effect for FB users?

rmc 9y ago
25 May 2018

rmc 9y ago

Legally no, you have to reside in the EU. You might trick Facebook's algorithms into putting you in the EU category. Check who you have your Facebook account with, AFAIK people outside the USA & Canada have an account with Facebook Ireland Ltd, so would be covered by GDPR. So, someone in India probably has an account with FB Irl, so is covered by GDPR. A VPN is not necessary!