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Heck, they've been doing machine learning since at least 2004, when they added Latent Semantic Analysis for junk mail filtering to the Mail app. And does anybod
by jd20 9y ago
Heck, they've been doing machine learning since at least 2004, when they added Latent Semantic Analysis for junk mail filtering to the Mail app. And does anybody remember iTunes Genius (collaborative filtering on your playlists in the cloud)?
I think Apple has traditionally done a really good job of keeping the technology used under wraps, for better or worse.
- chiph 9y agoDid Genius use AI? I thought it was more of a collaborative filtering feature where it used other people's playlists to build relationships between songs.
- ghfbjdhhv 9y agoMost everything described as “AI” these days involves training data of some kind.
- jd20 9y agoIf you consider machine learning a type of AI.
- azinman2 9y agoPretty much no one on the market are doing AI that couldn’t be called machine learning. It’s all about the buzzwords and remarketing...
- eanzenberg 9y agoIMO a calculator is AI; prove me wrong.
- coldtea 9y agoThe "O" part can ("in my Opinion") cannot be proved or disproved. If it's indeed so in your opinion, it is so (in your opinion).
- dao- 9y agoUh, opinions can still be proven wrong. Contrary to public postmodern belief, opinions are falsifiable.
- coldtea 9y agoUh, missed the point. An opinion can be proved wrong. The statement "in my opinion, X is Y" cannot.
- dao- 9y agoWow, so your comment was even more useless. Or was it a joke that I didn't get? The challenge was "prove me wrong" (with the opinion that I just uttered), not "disprove that this is my opinion".
- coldtea 9y ago>Wow, so your comment was even more useless. It was technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. https://www.cheerupemokid.com/comic/rescue https://www.cheerupemokid.com/comic/rescue
- Letmesleep69 9y agoIf a calculator is AI then a wrench may as well be AI. There is huge disagreement over what ~really~ is Artificial Intelligence so the argument is pointless without a chosen definition.
- eanzenberg 9y agoArtificial yes, intelligence I dont think so.
- azinman2 9y agoIs that really true? Long ago weak AI was distinguished from strong AI.
- genericpseudo 9y agoCollaborative filtering is machine learning, so if you consider AI machine learning, definitely yes.
- mrhappyunhappy 9y agoThere is nothing intelligent about machine learning. It’s cool but far from intelligent. AI buzzword to describe machin learning is equivalent to people calling computers cpus. Let’s me know really quickly just how clueless they are.
- hueving 9y agoCongrats, you just described all of modern AI!
- lloeki 9y agoDo Bayes/Kalman filters count as (super simplistic) A.I. somehow?
- chirau 9y agoThey aren't. Marketing makes them AI though, but they aren't. Just the same way folks think they have 'big data'.
- dorgo 9y agoAI effect maybe? "As soon as AI successfully solves a problem, the problem is no longer a part of AI." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect This attitude I encountered already on HN: "By discounting artificial intelligence people can continue to feel unique and special."
- wodenokoto 9y agoYes. The only reason why machine learning was not called AI, is because funding for research into AI dried up in the AI winter. Recently Google decided to revive the AI term, and here we are.
- chirau 9y agoNah, it doesn't count. Unless you are a buzzword person. AI is data science but not all data science is AI.
- mrhappyunhappy 9y agoIt always bugs me when people throw AI buzzword around when they are talking about machine learning.
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- esfandia 9y agoThe Apple Newton had handwriting recognition in the early 90's.
- malaya_zemlya 9y agoIt was technology acquired from a Russian company called ParaGraph.(http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-07-26/business/9307260187_1_paragraph-and-apple-computer-handwriting-recognition-stepan-pachikov http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-07-26/business/93072...)
- denzil_correa 9y ago> Heck, they've been doing machine learning since at least 2004, when they added Latent Semantic Analysis for junk mail filtering to the Mail app. LSA is a knowledge (text) representation technique not machine learning.
- jd20 9y agoFair point, I mentioned it because I was thinking they combined the LSA with some form of classifier that got trained as you marked messages as spam (or told it when it misclassified), I'm not sure what Apple's full implementation was though.
- denzil_correa 9y agoYup - it seems like they used Adaptive Latent Semantic Analysis as a dimensionality reduction technique to represent knowledge[ 0]. LSA helped them use the filtering technique on the device itself as it was not heavy. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N8b3NZSJoY&t=1m21s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N8b3NZSJoY&t=1m21s