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>It's an incredibly reasonable and rational feeling to have and I don't believe it's fair to the parent to completely dismiss his concerns that way How? It is

>It's an incredibly reasonable and rational feeling to have and I don't believe it's fair to the parent to completely dismiss his concerns that way How? It is literally not even close to something to worry about unless, as I posted elsewhere, you either own a gun (accidental deaths), are suicidal, or are involved in criminal activities. Similarly, the difference in deaths like traffic accidents between countries is so much more massive than the firearm homicide rate that it is absolutely insane to list that as a hard-line criteria. It is not reasonable or rational to be scared of guns in the US unless you are actually involved in sketchy situations or own one yourself. >And in all fairness, "it's not a big deal, you probably won't be a target anyway," isn't the most attractive selling point is it? Only from a psychological perspective. If you are actually concerned with your statistical likelihood of death, this is exactly what you should be interested in. Lurid stories from a country that has a third of a billion people is a completely irrational basis for such a decision.

ljm 9y ago
I'm not a woman so I have literally nothing to worry about as a man wanting to live in Saudi Arabia or Qatar, except that nobody would argue with me if I said I don't want to live there because I disagree with their cultural attitude towards women. What you're trying to tell me is that it's not valid for someone to consider US culture as it pertains to guns as a reason for wanting to live there or not, because I'm statistically unlikely to be involved in gun crime. The statistical likelihood of being a victim is totally irrelevant, we're talking about the compatibility of cultural values. And on that basis it is totally fair and rational to refuse to move somewhere that fundamentally opposes your own values. It's a matter of integrity and what's important to you, and nobody has the right to tell anyone whether those values are better or worse (or more/less rational) than your own. Crime is practically a given anywhere so on that basis you're absolutely correct. It's totally irrational to think that prolific reports of crime in the news is a good reason to think you're gonna get shot or stabbed when you walk down the street. Which is why I'm focusing so heavily on the cultural aspect.
- BookmarkSaver 9y ago
  >What you're trying to tell me is that it's not valid for someone to consider US culture as it pertains to guns as a reason for wanting to live there or not, because I'm statistically unlikely to be involved in gun crime. The statistical likelihood of being a victim is totally irrelevant, we're talking about the compatibility of cultural values. Well, his post is hidden now, but he seemed exclusively concerned with the danger, not the actual culture.

ljm 9y ago

I'm not a woman so I have literally nothing to worry about as a man wanting to live in Saudi Arabia or Qatar, except that nobody would argue with me if I said I don't want to live there because I disagree with their cultural attitude towards women. What you're trying to tell me is that it's not valid for someone to consider US culture as it pertains to guns as a reason for wanting to live there or not, because I'm statistically unlikely to be involved in gun crime. The statistical likelihood of being a victim is totally irrelevant, we're talking about the compatibility of cultural values. And on that basis it is totally fair and rational to refuse to move somewhere that fundamentally opposes your own values. It's a matter of integrity and what's important to you, and nobody has the right to tell anyone whether those values are better or worse (or more/less rational) than your own. Crime is practically a given anywhere so on that basis you're absolutely correct. It's totally irrational to think that prolific reports of crime in the news is a good reason to think you're gonna get shot or stabbed when you walk down the street. Which is why I'm focusing so heavily on the cultural aspect.

BookmarkSaver 9y ago
>What you're trying to tell me is that it's not valid for someone to consider US culture as it pertains to guns as a reason for wanting to live there or not, because I'm statistically unlikely to be involved in gun crime. The statistical likelihood of being a victim is totally irrelevant, we're talking about the compatibility of cultural values. Well, his post is hidden now, but he seemed exclusively concerned with the danger, not the actual culture.