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speculation. please stop.

by tequila_shot 9y ago

emilfihlman 9y ago
Eh? Of course any guess is speculation. Why shouldn't we ask what caused this horrible event?
- mikeash 9y ago
  Guessing is not asking.
  - emilfihlman 9y ago
    Eh?
    - mikeash 9y ago
      You made a wild guess about the cause. Your defense is that we should ask about the cause. This is a non sequitur, as those are two completely different things.
      - emilfihlman 9y ago
        It's called a discussion and definitely not a non sequitur. "I wonder if it was because of the recent rules changes made by YouTube", "Wouldn't be surprised if it was because of the recent rule changes YouTube made" and "Do you think this was because of the recent rule changes YouTube made?" are equivalent in what they bring to the discussion. The only difference is you choosing to interpret them differently.
    - recursive 9y ago
      You guessed. You didn't ask.
      - emilfihlman 9y ago
        No difference if you aren't being intellectually dishonest.
        recursive 9y ago
        I don't agree with that. There's a substantial difference between "What motivated this?" and "I wouldn't be surprised if this was motivated by {political reason x}.". You're getting hung up on grammatic structure. "Could it have been motivated by {political reason x}?" has the same problem, even though it's phrased as a question. It's the baseless speculation.
- wompfox 9y ago
  Asking what caused it and making a guess on what caused it are two different things
- moate 9y ago
  Other questions you should ask: was this because of youtube's response to Logan Paul's antics. Was this a secret message he found in Logan Paul's videos? Was the shooter a Logan Paul Stan who did this for LP's attention. Or don't. Because you're not actually asking helpful questions because you're literally just making this stuff up without ANY factual basis and just injecting your own thoughts into a situation nobody knows anything about currently.
  - emilfihlman 9y ago
    This is not even remotely the same. YouTube policies on gun related content is 100% related to this issue. Simply because you want to be right doesn't mean you are.
monochromatic 9y ago
Everything is speculation this early.

speculation. please stop.

emilfihlman 9y ago

Eh? Of course any guess is speculation. Why shouldn't we ask what caused this horrible event?

mikeash 9y ago
Guessing is not asking.
- emilfihlman 9y ago
  Eh?
  - mikeash 9y ago
    You made a wild guess about the cause. Your defense is that we should ask about the cause. This is a non sequitur, as those are two completely different things.
    - emilfihlman 9y ago
      It's called a discussion and definitely not a non sequitur. "I wonder if it was because of the recent rules changes made by YouTube", "Wouldn't be surprised if it was because of the recent rule changes YouTube made" and "Do you think this was because of the recent rule changes YouTube made?" are equivalent in what they bring to the discussion. The only difference is you choosing to interpret them differently.
  - recursive 9y ago
    You guessed. You didn't ask.
    - emilfihlman 9y ago
      No difference if you aren't being intellectually dishonest.
      - recursive 9y ago
        I don't agree with that. There's a substantial difference between "What motivated this?" and "I wouldn't be surprised if this was motivated by {political reason x}.". You're getting hung up on grammatic structure. "Could it have been motivated by {political reason x}?" has the same problem, even though it's phrased as a question. It's the baseless speculation.
wompfox 9y ago
Asking what caused it and making a guess on what caused it are two different things
moate 9y ago
Other questions you should ask: was this because of youtube's response to Logan Paul's antics. Was this a secret message he found in Logan Paul's videos? Was the shooter a Logan Paul Stan who did this for LP's attention. Or don't. Because you're not actually asking helpful questions because you're literally just making this stuff up without ANY factual basis and just injecting your own thoughts into a situation nobody knows anything about currently.
- emilfihlman 9y ago
  This is not even remotely the same. YouTube policies on gun related content is 100% related to this issue. Simply because you want to be right doesn't mean you are.

monochromatic 9y ago

Everything is speculation this early.